Who Has Purchased A New MH Out Of State ?

[OFDPOS]

Asking anyone who has purchased a MH out of state and how did your license/registration figure into the deal ?

I was working with a Dealer in IN on a new MH .
Without getting into the details (this may be another post at a later date) But I was straight up with the dealer , I know the games of dealer starts high and customer starts low and back and forth .
I told them I want a OTD price of what I can get XYZ MH for with XYZ options. tax, license,registration, doc fees and whatever else that seems to get slid in on the final price.
I get the runaround abit , price of MH ,tax for my cty in my state and doc fees. The guy says there we met your price.
I reply back with where's the license/registration ? His reply we give you a 30 day plate and you register it when you get back home.

Is this the norm ? I have bought several vehicles through the years , but never out of state.

[OFDPOS]

Well since the potus and the gov of Ca seems to think that every illegal gets to have a drivers license in the state of Ca. My 2 week wait for an appointment to the DMV came up today.
I had the paper work from the business that sells direct with their $$ numbers on it. I handed it to the counter person and asked I am looking to purchase this vehicle from XYZ in IN. here is their build up sheet with specs and price , I need to know what my registration fees would be on it.
The person looked it over and without a second breath said we have no way of telling you ! , When you are purchasing it we type in all the info and that's the last step before it prints out.I asked can they do that and show me what it would be and NOT push the print out button, NOPE...
Well can you at least get me in the ballpark on the fees ? NOPE !

So that went over like a lead balloon now didn't it !!

I had a set amount of money to do all this, since I can't get a straight answer from my own state DMV I'm not going to go blindly at it..

I've since bought a used 2005 MH and that will get us by till I can save up so I know I can cover whatever they decide to charge for the fees..

Thanks again for the replies , some very helpful and well some not 🙂

[RvBill3]

I bought from RvDirect. Took delivery in Iowa and I live i Illinois. RvDirect requires payment when the MH is ready to ship from factory. I sent them a check. They FedExed back the next day a completed Bill of Sale and Manufactuers Titles (chassis and coach). I took them to my Secretary of State, paid sales tax, title and registration fees and received plates. Drove to Iowa and picked it up 7 days later with my plates. No problems.

Have also purchased a car in Missouri to register in Illinois. Received paperwork from dealer and paid $5 for a Missouri temp tag. Went to my Sec. of State and paid sales tax and fees and got plates. Illinois does not allow other states to collect their sales tax. They just require a Bill of Sale.

If financing, it can be figured into deal and check written back to you for taxes.

[OFDPOS]

mgirardo wrote:

OFDPOS wrote:
It would have been nice then for both salesguys I dealt with to mention it then .
I told them I have never bought any vehicles out of state.
Instead of saying yes we met your offer price OTD with me repeating in both telephone conversations and emails...
Purchase price
options
doc fees
Registration
EVERYTHING Out The Door and they assured me they agreed on my offer UNTIL the paper agreement was emailed over for me to print ,sign and fax back...

I will be contacting the owner next week and see if there will be any resolution to what has transpired between his salesman and myself ?

I have every email back and forth as well...

OTD price means the price it takes to get you Out The Door. As far as they are concerned, registration fees are not included in the OTD price. They can't charge you the registration fees since they are not involved with the registration process.

It seems unreasonable to expect a dealer to be required to know what the registration fees are of all 50 states. The dealer gave you what you asked for.

-Michael

NO they didn't !
If a place is going to only do business by selling factory direct with NO dealerships in said 50 states , Then YES I feel it is reasonable to expect them to know the registration fees .
If not then they need to say that up front which neither did !
NOT try to slide it by like they tried to do !

I point blank spelled out my offer of $$$ to INCLUDE EVERYTHING initial price of MH ,Doc Fees, Tax, Registration, AND ANYTHING they want to try add on ; be it windshield washer fluid , to fuel in the tank . I don't care how they wrote it up on paper EVERYTHING mentioned for $$$ set price that I offered and it was excepted.
Then to come back with what they did is a crock of #$%^& in my book...

I told them up front what $$ amount I had to work with and that's it. They both knew that coming in putting the deal together !
So I'll put it another way , either ;
A ) both of them were not trained properly OR ;
B ) turned into the typical dishonest used car salesman to get a sale...
I'm leaning towards B...

Now the Mrs is so sick and fed up with the whole thing she doesn't even want to hear the name of the MH outfit I was trying to work with ...

[kendall69]

mgirardo wrote:

OFDPOS wrote:
It would have been nice then for both salesguys I dealt with to mention it then .
I told them I have never bought any vehicles out of state.
Instead of saying yes we met your offer price OTD with me repeating in both telephone conversations and emails...
Purchase price
options
doc fees
Registration
EVERYTHING Out The Door and they assured me they agreed on my offer UNTIL the paper agreement was emailed over for me to print ,sign and fax back...

I will be contacting the owner next week and see if there will be any resolution to what has transpired between his salesman and myself ?

I have every email back and forth as well...

OTD price means the price it takes to get you Out The Door. As far as they are concerned, registration fees are not included in the OTD price. They can't charge you the registration fees since they are not involved with the registration process.

It seems unreasonable to expect a dealer to be required to know what the registration fees are of all 50 states. The dealer gave you what you asked for.

-Michael

Not ALWAYS correct. Number one EVERYTHING is negotiable. I'm dealing with a dealer now and told him I want the OTD price and he asked "does that include tax reg etc." I said it includes everything so I don't pay a dime afterwards with anyone but you. He understood and quoted accordingly.

Dealing with ANYONE is smart to be clear, understandable and get it in writing. Stop all confusion.

I negotiated on a vehicle years ago and we agreed to terms, they pulled up the new vehicle, I unloaded my stuff from my vehicle and started the transfer into the new vehicle. We went in to sign the final paperwork, and I noticed the price was quite a bit different than what "I understood"

I said " I understood the price to be zyx" finance guy said " oh no the price is "abc" ...confused I said call in the sales guy. Sales guy said " oh no I didn't say that" . I said go get my car and switch all my stuff back - I'M OUTTA HERE.


Second time I went ti purchase a new Jeep for my daughter ( RED of course ). She did her selfie pics to send her friends, etc. I started to sign the paperwork and I asked what the finance rate was. He said at the time it was like 9%. I said WHAT? I can get 3% anywhere on the planet. Sales guy came back in with a yellow legal piece of paper full of scribble and said " LOOK you agreed to the finance rater right here"

At that point I had my daughter leave the room and get me some water. When she returned all the swearing and screaming on my part was finished and we left the dealership with no new RED Jeep. It was a long silent ride home for her and I.

What she learned that day was more valuable than anything college could teach her.

[mgirardo]

OFDPOS wrote:
It would have been nice then for both salesguys I dealt with to mention it then .
I told them I have never bought any vehicles out of state.
Instead of saying yes we met your offer price OTD with me repeating in both telephone conversations and emails...
Purchase price
options
doc fees
Registration
EVERYTHING Out The Door and they assured me they agreed on my offer UNTIL the paper agreement was emailed over for me to print ,sign and fax back...

I will be contacting the owner next week and see if there will be any resolution to what has transpired between his salesman and myself ?

I have every email back and forth as well...

OTD price means the price it takes to get you Out The Door. As far as they are concerned, registration fees are not included in the OTD price. They can't charge you the registration fees since they are not involved with the registration process.

It seems unreasonable to expect a dealer to be required to know what the registration fees are of all 50 states. The dealer gave you what you asked for.

-Michael

[OFDPOS]

tsetsaf wrote:
OP you need to know what the laws of that state are. As a CA resident you will be paying the taxes and registration when you bring the unit down to the dmv for vin verification. Some states require a dealer to collect the taxes and reg no matter what. In other cases the dealer can deliver out of their state and avoid this requirement. In your case figure out taxes and reg cost, deduct this from the total amount you want to pay, and make the offer. You are confusing OTD numbers here. All you should be paying is the price of the unit. Everything else is on you at the DMV office.

I remember years ago(20+) of hearing the stories of "welcome to Ca fee" for registering an out of state vehicle.
This RV Company is a factory direct sells to Customer , you would think that they what know what they are doing then ? But apparently not.

Yes I blame myself for part of the situation BUT I'm putting more blame on them for not forthcoming with actual facts on the registration part.
I feel like it was say whatever to make a sale and then let the chips fall where they did...

I will go online and make an appointment at the local DMV and see what they have to say about the Registration and taxes..

Then call and talk with the owner...

Thanks for the replies ...

[tsetsaf]

OP you need to know what the laws of that state are. As a CA resident you will be paying the taxes and registration when you bring the unit down to the dmv for vin verification. Some states require a dealer to collect the taxes and reg no matter what. In other cases the dealer can deliver out of their state and avoid this requirement. In your case figure out taxes and reg cost, deduct this from the total amount you want to pay, and make the offer. You are confusing OTD numbers here. All you should be paying is the price of the unit. Everything else is on you at the DMV office.

[OFDPOS]

It would have been nice then for both salesguys I dealt with to mention it then .
I told them I have never bought any vehicles out of state.
Instead of saying yes we met your offer price OTD with me repeating in both telephone conversations and emails...
Purchase price
options
doc fees
Registration
EVERYTHING Out The Door and they assured me they agreed on my offer UNTIL the paper agreement was emailed over for me to print ,sign and fax back...

I will be contacting the owner next week and see if there will be any resolution to what has transpired between his salesman and myself ?

I have every email back and forth as well...

[coolmom42]

The dealer cannot issue you a CA registration. They are doing all they can do, legally.

They can give you a temporary tag so you are good to drive home, but not a CA registration. You are asking them for the impossible.

Generally dealers are REQUIRED to collect sales tax (at least in TN they are.) When you take your bill of sale to get registration in CA, it will show the sales tax already paid. Then you will have to pay for CA inspection/registration.

Call whatever agency handles registration in CA, and verify the process, plus registration/inspection fees.

[hitchup]

We've bought vehicles and multiple RV's out of state. Only once did one purchase pay the sales tax directly, because they were a reciprocal state. We usually figured it separately and pay out of pocket. One time, we had them figure in financing and they gave us a check back for amount at closing. They were off $$$ and had a delay since we had to send a separate check for difference.

This is because depending on the State and the County, each one has different DMV registration fees and rates. I don't know why you expect a dealer to make the call to your local office, when it's much easier for you as a residence to go to the County Courthouse or DMV and find out an estimated registration amount.

[PSW]

Isn't it odd? We have a Uniform Commercial Code in the US, but as I read these postings it is obvious that there is so much variability from state to state that they are almost like seperate countries. It looks like the best thing to do is to have a very clear conversation with home state licensing/taxing authorities prior to buying things out of state.

We have a system in Oklahoma called Tag Agents. They are local businesses licensed to represent the state in all this stuff. There are three of these agents within five miles of my house, for example, so you can see they are all over and convenient. When you go into their business, you can get really good, clear direction and help............from someone that lives in your community as opposed to some voice on the phone in a state agency. Several states have this system and it really works nicely.

[Gene_in_NE]

OFDPOS wrote:
Like like I said , I'm not trying to sound like an ahole and rereading my own posts I certainly do ! lol

Thanks for your replies and your insight on this.
I have never bought anything out of state and then brought it home and register it here....

Since you are from California, you really need to get very clear instructions from the Califorina DMV on how to license a vehicle purchased in another State. There was a case in these forums where a member (Believe his name was Lee Caldwell) bought a motorhome in Colorado and brought it into California and he could not license it in California. Had something to do with the emissions certifications and not enough mileage when brought into the state. He wound up having to return the motorhome to Colorado. I believe they require stickers under the hood stating the unit meets Calif regs. If the unit had over certain miles, then the sticker requirement could be waived.

[OFDPOS]

Like like I said , I'm not trying to sound like an ahole and rereading my own posts I certainly do ! lol

Thanks for your replies and your insight on this.
I have never bought anything out of state and then brought it home and register it here.

Now as for buying anything I guess you just have to be happy/comfortable with what price you pay for something.
I research, read up (overkill) on anything major I am looking to buy.

On used RVs' all we have access to is pretty much Nada to price them out.

Saying that most dealers I have tried to work on a used MH they take the highest price then pretty much build the MH from a skeleton shell , even tho it states "see" "Special Notes" which states standard equipped with at least 75% of the stuff they are trying to make you think are options.

Just today coming back from a small RV show we pulled off at a used RV place.
They have a 2010 Winnebago Access on a Ford E450 chassis with 6,500 actual miles on it.The lowest entry level M24V MH..

They have the MSRP optioned out at $79,847 guy saying it sold brand new for that.
You know as well as I do it didn't sell for that.
They are asking $54,995 with 6 year old original cracked dry rotted tires, sides are faded inturrier appears ok no noticeable worn damaged etc with 17 hours on the Gen.

I tell the guy about all the last dealers I've dealt with and I'd be paying cash for it and whatever price he tells me I'm going home and do some research on it. He looks at his paper work throws $49,500 OTD at me .
I get his card and said I'll be in touch.
I go home go on NADA and can only get to $39855.
I know there's tax registration and a few more fees. which should be approx $4500. So I come up with $44,355 for a 5 year old out of any warranty. Unless of coarse you want to buy an extended warranty cha ching !
Just looking at it I know it needs chassis battery ,original , both coach batteries NAPA brand small batteries and tires.
Everything completely serviced , oils, filters and all fluids changed out.
Not to mention a complete detail from bumper to bumper.
If everything mentioned was done I don't even know if its worth paying $45K for it OTD..

[mockturtle]

Bought my Tiger in SC, registered it in WA. The sales tax I paid in SC was deductible from the (much, much higher!) WA sales tax.

SC, not NC! :S