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The GPS Got Me

CR_CRUISER
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Explorer
It finally happened. We were headed down the Pacific Coast Highway in Oregon. It was dark and raining. We'd been driving for 6 hours and just about to the Campground I had programmed into the GPS. The map showed to turn right in 500 feet. It then said turn right here. So I turned right.

It didn't look quite like a road that a State campground would be on but I followed it anyways. It got narrower then turned to gravel and ended a mile later at a locked gate (into the back of the campground).
I wound up having to back up the whole way, about a mile, out to the highway. I then had to back out onto Highway 101. The correct entrance was another 1/4 mile down the road.

The GPS got turned off for the rest of the trip.
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Lorne_Lorraine
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CR CRUISER wrote:
It finally happened. We were headed down the Pacific Coast Highway in Oregon. It was dark and raining. We'd been driving for 6 hours and just about to the Campground I had programmed into the GPS. The map showed to turn right in 500 feet. It then said turn right here. So I turned right.

It didn't look quite like a road that a State campground would be on but I followed it anyways. It got narrower then turned to gravel and ended a mile later at a locked gate (into the back of the campground).
I wound up having to back up the whole way, about a mile, out to the highway. I then had to back out onto Highway 101. The correct entrance was another 1/4 mile down the road.

The GPS got turned off for the rest of the trip.


Years back I had something similar happen to me at Hillsborough River State Park in Florida. Now I use Google Earth to find and input the exact co-ordinates for the entrance of unfamiliar campgrounds into the GPS. Even though I may not be able see the campground entrance because it's very dark and foggy, if the GPS says the entrance is 500 feet ahead on my right, I can have some confidence that it's actually right there. My version of an instrument landing.

Campground signs, if they exist, can also be very hard to see at night and they may or may not be located such that they clearly denote the entrance.
Lorne Ross
2003 Pleasure-Way Ford Excel TD
Camped the lower 48 states and 9 provinces
Most multiple times and now on the repeat!

CA_Traveler
Explorer III
Explorer III
Pros for my Garmin:
1. I have virtually all road maps of North America available to me. There is no way I or anyone else could acquire that many maps or carry them in any vehicle.
2. Iโ€™m routed to destinations where Iโ€™m not familiar with the roads.
3. I get advanced information on when to turn.
4. I get updated time of arrival, miles and other information which are reasonable accurate.
5. I get routing to multiple destinations.
6. A missed turn results in a new route or a map of the area to follow.
7. Iโ€™m not picking up and trying to read a map while driving.
8. The device and its capabilities continue to improve.
9. My portable bean bag support has been used in numerous cars or carried in my pocket.
10. I can add points of interest obtained from the internet for destinations that interest me.
11. I added over a thousand points of interest for our Alaska trip (obtained from an area resident) that included a lot of potential sites to see or stop.


Cons:
1. Occasionally the routing is not accurate or optimal so some intelligence needs to be used when following a route.
2. There is a purchase price for the GPS and it needs periodic updating.
3. Paper maps are desired for me for the overall perspective of a route. I have acquired about 100 paper maps over the years.
4. The small display makes route planning somewhat difficult. I use M&S for route planning.
5. I find the built in GPS not user friendly when adding favorites or routes. So much easier for me to update my battery powered unit in the RV or home.
6. If you are familiar with your route or destination a GPS has limited value.
7. The points of interest on my GPS from Garmin are of limited value to me and I donโ€™t know if current versions are better. Like a business address that is someoneโ€™s house vs their store location.
8. Limited memory for points of interest and routes. Newer devices are less restrictive.
9. The routing back to my home was significantly less than optimal. Garminโ€™s response was that it was complicated! Basic bugs are not complicated and I never notified them of other problems.
10. The Garmin recalculating (eliminated in newer units) is annoying.

Neutral:
1. The GPS has probably paid for itself in terms of no longer needing to acquire as many maps. The time and actual cost in acquiring paper maps does add up.
2. I havenโ€™t found any single source of paper or electronic maps to be 100% accurate. AAA maps are excellent and you can find the street but determining just where the number is on the street may not be accurate or available. For a few blocks the number is not significant but if the street is miles long itโ€™s often helpful to know how to get to that location.
3. I use a combination of aids including paper maps, S&T and Google Earth as needed.
2009 Holiday Rambler 42' Scepter with ISL 400 Cummins
750 Watts Solar Morningstar MPPT 60 Controller
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland

Bob

Turbo_Diesel_Du
Explorer
Explorer
Saved my bacon last year outside of Calgary, during the floods, when we were trying to make it back to Billings, Montana to get treated for my congestive heart failure. Had no idea there were so many graveled back roads as all the main roads were closed due to bridges being out.
charles weidman

CA_Traveler
Explorer III
Explorer III
The sue.t post shows a lack of understanding by Garmin of that area. "How do you find a coffee shop?" But not sure I'd want and certainly don't need POI's for stores that may or may not be open when I arrive.

For me and my 8 year old Garmin the Alaska Highway changes were a non issue. I would arrive within a few minutes of the GPS estimate.

In June 2013 we arrived in Watson Lake expecting (hoping) to find 3 CGs based on the Church book and 2 were closed. We knew from research to expect changes. Terri Church said they were aware of this earlier in the year. But they did not update their online updates. My point is if a very valuable guide like this isn't updated then what can be expected from other sources of information?
2009 Holiday Rambler 42' Scepter with ISL 400 Cummins
750 Watts Solar Morningstar MPPT 60 Controller
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland

Bob

sue_t
Explorer
Explorer
A few years ago I had the opportunity to talk with some real people at Garmin while trying to resolve a software issue. The conversation rolled around to the routing utility (which I would lose if I dickered with the maps so they worked with a no-longer supported Garmin program).

I mumbled that I never used it anyway because there weren't too many routes to get lost on here. Garmin rep expressed absolute surprise and asked how we found coffee-shops and stores without routing and POIs on. It seemed Garmin's focus had changed to be finding businesses in a city rather than routing folks through rural areas.

I also suggested they update their mapping for the north...huh? Yup, their mapping is based on the most recent federal mapping. Which for Yukon is great for the topography but terrible for the highways. There has been significant re-routing of the Alaska Highway in places but this wasn't reflected on Garmin's mapping.
sue t.
Pictures from our many RV Adventures to Yukon & Alaska from Vancouver Island. Now we live in Yukon!

FlatBroke
Explorer II
Explorer II
Just got back from a trip to another town and plugged in the address. GPS took me on a "short cut" about 5 miles through the country and when I put home in it took me right to the interstate only a mile away.
I had a devil of time trying to escape toll roads and the GPS kept wanting to take me back to them. Then I discovered an option to tell it to ignore toll roads. Guess I need to study the directions a little more.

Hitch Hiker
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KCFDCapt
Explorer
Explorer
Here in So. California there is a saying, "Death by GPS." The GPS will send travelers out into the desert and on to trackless areas, only to have them be stranded is a desolate area. It has been several years ago but on well known case involved four German tourists who perished in Death Valley area and only two of the bodies were recovered, and that was years later.

Do not trust your life to a GPS!

1775
Explorer
Explorer
When it comes to campgrounds never trust the GPS. Some campgrounds will tell you on their websites not to follow GPS directions to get to them. I always check on Google maps first for the location of the campground and then compare that to the route the GPS will take and the GPS often does what the OP's GPS did - bring you to the back or side of the campground where no real road exists - if it brings you near the campground at all.
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Meryl and Me Hit the Road

Old-Biscuit
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Explorer III
Recalculating, Recalculating, Recalculating..........reummmmph !
Is it time for your medication or mine?


2007 DODGE 3500 QC SRW 5.9L CTD In-Bed 'quiet gen'
2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
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BruceMc
Explorer III
Explorer III
Just wait until vehicles do the driving for us... what do you think will be guiding them?
2016 Forest River Sunseeker 2250SLEC Chevrolet 6.0L

MitchF150
Explorer III
Explorer III
After an update to my Garmin awhile ago, it added an exclusion for "unpaved roads".. If you didn't check it to "exclude" them, it would take you on unpaved roads! Found this out while towing the trailer. We knew the way to go but the GPS kept telling us to go this other way... Well, got curious and decided to follow it.. It wasn't so bad initially.. Ended up on some wide gravel roads, but it kept telling us to "turn right". Well, "right" was just an open field?? After a couple of times, I noticed that there was a "road" between the fields where it was saying 'turn right', so again.. "what the heck, we've come this far"... ๐Ÿ™‚

Got lucky and it was not too bad of a 'road', except for the 90* turn at one point and a huge rut running through the 'road'..

Finally got to the main hwy and determined that it saved about 5 miles, but going 10 mph through the fields, it cost us more in time...

When we got home, I went through the settings and found the new exclusion setting and also set it to calculate for shorter 'time' and not 'distance' and that way it tends to keep you on the hwy than the back roads...

I like the GPS, but also have paper maps and still watch out for signs and other clues as to the direction I'm going. I also have not been 'curious' about when it says to go a way I know is not exactly right... ๐Ÿ™‚

Mitch
2013 F150 XLT 4x4 SuperCab Max Tow Egoboost 3.73 gears #7700 GVWR #1920 payload. 2019 Rockwood Mini Lite 2511S.

WA7NDD
Explorer
Explorer
The rural road in front of our house was an entrance to I-20 about 800 feet down. The state closed the entrance and built a overpass exchange about a mile down the road behind our house. For six months, eighteen-wheeled truckers headed for the closed entrance following their GPS. They would pass the house and somehow got turned around and a few minutes later they came back. I assume the maps finally were updated because there are no more trucks.
1998 Four Winds 5000 Rigby, ID

Pangaea_Ron
Explorer
Explorer
camperpaul wrote:
I always confirm the gps directions with Google Maps, set fo "Satellite View".


That's what we do. GPS can lead you astray.

We also use MS Streets and Trips for route planning, and often print out the final turns into our destination/CG.
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2014 Honda AWD CR-V EX-L

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
I use the GPS constantly when traveling. However I always check the route the GPS recommends on my mapping program first to make sure there are no surprises. I simply can't imagine blindly following a GPS. In fact I usually gin up the route on Basecamp, check it, then transfer it to the GPS and check it again. I got to admit that I love the GPS, it makes getting there much easier.

I've even got some paper maps around...somewhere. ๐Ÿ™‚
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"