Another CW BAD!

[ctpres]

Had to get something out of our rig that has been waiting in line for a month to get fixed. Employee walked us out and opened the door. What you don't lock them? Nope he said. Over two hundred and fifty customer rigs in the lot waiting for service and none locked! Must have signed several pages of CW not responsible documents when we checked in. Hell of a way to run a business.

[Sam_Spade]

4X4Dodger wrote:

So in fact there are not 50 sets of RULES as you call them. there is instead a body of case Law that is relied upon by judges and lawyers to argue their cases and find for or against a given plaintiff.

You seem to be a fairly savvy person; why is it that you continue to ignore the fact that an action taken in State court will NOT rely on "the body of case law" in any other state.

Therefore there ARE 50 different sets of case law that might apply depending on what state you are in. And what parts of that body of case law are applicable depends on the specific circumstances.

While your assumptions might be true in a lot of cases, they still are assumptions.

I'm done.

[4X4Dodger]

Sam Spade wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:

I think not. If it is on the dealers lot under his protection and at his request or insistence he is definitely liable for damages. Period.

There are 50 different specific sets of rules, one for each state......and probably a million different sets of specific circumstances. Thinking that you know what will apply in every circumstance it just a BIG stretch. You "know" nothing of the sort.

Well actually I do. Not all agreements are adjudicated by written "Law". In fact most are not.

Most judgements are based of precedents of previous similar judgements on cases that share a COMMON issue. Most judgements are based on these as no Written laws apply specifically to every circumstance. Secondly most legislatures shy away from writing such specific laws.

So in fact there are not 50 sets of RULES as you call them. there is instead a body of case Law that is relied upon by judges and lawyers to argue their cases and find for or against a given plaintiff.

On a case like this settlement is almost assured as the cost of litigation to the RV dealer and the, at least, 50-50 chance that he will be saddled with court costs and lawyers fees just doesnt make it a smart move to take to court.

In fact my bet is the corporate counsel for the RV dealer would be remiss in his legal and ethical obligation if he did not sternly warn the RV dealer that there was no case on his part and that a settlement, sooner rather than later, was in his best interests.

[Sam_Spade]

4X4Dodger wrote:

I think not. If it is on the dealers lot under his protection and at his request or insistence he is definitely liable for damages. Period.

There are 50 different specific sets of rules, one for each state......and probably a million different sets of specific circumstances. Thinking that you know what will apply in every circumstance it just a BIG stretch. You "know" nothing of the sort.

[4X4Dodger]

Sam Spade wrote:

Gene&Ginny wrote:
In my state they are still responsible, particularly if it is not locked.

Are you a lawyer ? And experienced in consumer protection law ??

In most cases, that is true ONLY if the dealer was somehow negligent.
It may take a jury to define "negligent" in each individual case.

I think not. If it is on the dealers lot under his protection and at his request or insistence he is definitely liable for damages. Period. And I can tell you no case will get to court as the dealer will settle it well before hand.

[ctpres]

Hi OP here: Just for grins thought I would show how I can keep track of
where my RV is. Helps me understand when CW is actually doing something. My GPS tracking system works something like Lojack only a lot better. Can't show the map included with report but it spots location of RV within + or - 20 feet. Heartbeat is daily system check and location report and plug in report tells me batteries were dead and rig was connected to shore power. Pretty cool stuff.



27905 Katy Fwy, Katy TX
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[DutchmenSport]

AmericalVette wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:


Modern Trailer in Anderson, Indiana has a completely fenced in property with high fences and locking gates. I found out a couple days ago, they have a dog that roams freely when the gates are locked! Sweet!

I like the idea of the dog!

Great! I was wondering if my ex had found a job!

:E

[AmericalVette]

DutchmenSport wrote:


Modern Trailer in Anderson, Indiana has a completely fenced in property with high fences and locking gates. I found out a couple days ago, they have a dog that roams freely when the gates are locked! Sweet!

I like the idea of the dog!

Great! I was wondering if my ex had found a job!

[Bird_Freak]

1968mooney wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

Bigdog wrote:
The place I usually go to, I walk in and get an appointment usually in a week. When I take it in, they start on it right away and if it needs parts, they roll it out and lock it.
Another place I take it, you make an appointment, now 6-8 weeks out and drop it and leave and then they get to it when they can. Needless to say, I don't take it there except to get my propane tank. They told me it would be the middle of the month for me to get to get an estimate on replacing the towbar that came off the toad the other day. So far almost $3K to the front end where it pulled loose and torqued to one side. Pushed the bumper up into the front fenders and shoved them back so that you can hear the doors scrape when they open. Haven't been able to get it up into the air to see what the frame looks like where the base plates fastened on.

Are you saying you took your car to a rv shop for body and frame repairs? Really!:S

I take my airplane to "Jiffy Lube" for service. they do a great job. :S

good for you!

[1968mooney]

Bird Freak wrote:

Bigdog wrote:
The place I usually go to, I walk in and get an appointment usually in a week. When I take it in, they start on it right away and if it needs parts, they roll it out and lock it.
Another place I take it, you make an appointment, now 6-8 weeks out and drop it and leave and then they get to it when they can. Needless to say, I don't take it there except to get my propane tank. They told me it would be the middle of the month for me to get to get an estimate on replacing the towbar that came off the toad the other day. So far almost $3K to the front end where it pulled loose and torqued to one side. Pushed the bumper up into the front fenders and shoved them back so that you can hear the doors scrape when they open. Haven't been able to get it up into the air to see what the frame looks like where the base plates fastened on.

Are you saying you took your car to a rv shop for body and frame repairs? Really!:S

I take my airplane to "Jiffy Lube" for service. they do a great job. :S

[bsinmich]

I have taken my motorhomes to Holland Motor Homes for years and when they are in their lot they are locked. The entire lot is also fenced and locked when they are closed. Customers get to dump free in their dump station also. Since it is only a mile from my home I use it regularly.

[2oldman]

Might want to move this to CW forum.

[ctpres]

Bird Freak wrote:

ctpres wrote:
OP Here: But wait it gets better. We did have a specific date and time appointment. But CW did not even look at it for two weeks. Thor sent wrong part and it took CW two more weeks to find that out. In rough numbers CW four weeks doing nothing and Thor five days for part processing AND shipping time. To be continued.

I would almost bet Thor did not send wrong part if any part. Sounds like they are just making excuse to put you off.

Thor was very responsive to our request for info. After I figured out both parts ORDERED wrong by CW - I can only conclude CW tech has never replaced cable on slide. Have decided to go pick it up and take it elsewhere.

[Bird_Freak]

Bigdog wrote:
I am not saying that I am taking my car to an rv shop for repairs, I am taking it there at the suggestion of the body shop so that I can get an estimate in writing on parts and labor to replace the tow bar, so that he can send that along with his body repair estimate to the adjuster.
Sorry if that wasn't too clear. 😮

Now that makes sense, Scared me a little! :B

[Bigdog]

I am not saying that I am taking my car to an rv shop for repairs, I am taking it there at the suggestion of the body shop so that I can get an estimate in writing on parts and labor to replace the tow bar, so that he can send that along with his body repair estimate to the adjuster.
Sorry if that wasn't too clear. 😮