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Beware of this scam while on the road

fotodog
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Explorer
Iโ€™m not a frequent poster, but I want to let everyone know what happened to us while traveling through Kingman, Arizona, although it could happen anywhere. My wife and I are both successful business people, live in a big city dealing with all sorts of individuals daily, and are not naive. And yet, we were almost scammed by a thief.

My wife and I were returning from my daughterโ€™s wedding and stopped for fuel. After getting back on the freeway, we were flagged down by a guy in a pickup truck driving beside us, waving for us to pull over and pointing to the back of my motorhome. Since I had experienced some problems towing my Jeep on this trip, it seemed likely there was a possible problem.

Once pulled over, he told us that he had entered the freeway just behind us, and every time we went over a bump, there were sparks coming from under the coach. He presented a business card and showed me a business license showing that he was a licensed mobile RV tech. He suggested getting off the freeway at the next exit and follow him to a truck stop. At this point I was not comfortable driving across remote desert stretches in 100+ degree heat, so I decided to do that. Once stopped, he inspected the rear shocks and told me that the right rear shock was bad and needed to be replaced, along with the left side.

I thought he was only inspecting the shock, but he actually removed it entirely before I could object. According to him, to clearly see the part #. He made af few calls, and recommended that I replace all 4 shocks. They needed to come from California at a cost of $960 + $400 labor. Since it was Sunday, it would take 2 days for the parts to arrive from California.

I was cautious from the beginning, but at this point I was becoming suspicious. And then came the clincher; his โ€œchip readerโ€ was down, so we would need to go to the bank or Walmart to get cash for the down payment on the parts. I told him I wasnโ€™t comfortable doing that, and all the while he kept telling me that he was an honest businessman. He told me he did work for people staying at the local KOA, and they could vouch for him. Since the possibility of a problem had been raised, I wasnโ€™t going to continue across the desert until I had the coach inspected anyway, so I told him to go with us to the KOA and talk with the people there.

We did this, and the awesome woman behind the desk (thanks Dee!) told him they had 2 other people over the last few weeks with the same story. He insisted he was telling the truth, but when she suggested that we call the Highway Patrol to resolve the issue, he left. But not before telling me to be sure to call him in the morning to order the parts.

So now we were stuck in Kingman on Sunday, on our way home to San Francisco where I had a big backlog of work waiting for me. I started calling phone numbers from the legitimate business cards in the KOA, and by sheer luck Russell, at Russell RV Repair picked up. He heard my story, opened up his doors for us, inspected the shock which was perfectly good, and reinstalled it. Russell told us that 3 other people had the exact same story as ours over the last couple of months. He is a true gentleman, an honest businessman, and saved us a tremendous amount of grief. I paid him well, gave him a nice bottle of Sonoma Valley wine, and we were on our way,

So be careful out there! No matter how much you think something like this could never happen to you, it can happen very quickly.
Tim, my wife Li, and Snickers and Ziggy the Wonder Kitties

2008 Tiffen Allegro 30DA, Workhorse W22 Chassis, Allison 6 speed, Chevy 8.1L V8
2015 Jeep Cherokee with Blue Ox baseplate & ReadyBrake system

http://www.timandrews.com/ My photography web site
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Turtle_n_Peeps
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Explorer
Thank you OP.

Big lesson to be learned here.

#1. If someone flags you down; check your mirrors and if you don't see anything amiss then don't pull over unless you are in a populated area. Be VERY careful if that person follows you.

#2. Never a good idea to get out of your rig. Have your doors locked and have them come up and explain the situation to you.

#3. Get at least somewhat mechanically inclined with your rig. Sparks don't come from shocks. If you don't see anything dragging there is not much to cause sparks. If the story sounds weird; then if most likely is.

#4. Never let anybody under your rig; EVER! I could say I'm a gynecologist but I'm pretty sure your wife will not let me check her out. The same should ring true if I say I'm a mechanic and I'm here to help...โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ..

#5. Needles is a scum town. Kingman is a close second. That's my experience. I have no idea why that is but that is my experience.

Stay safe out there!
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

4aSong
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Explorer
azdryheat wrote:
You let the guy near your motorhome? You let him crawl under your motorhome? And he removed a shock? And you didn't stop him? Why didn't you just hand him your wallet? If it were me I would have pulled over, listened to him (with my .45 in my waistband) and sent him on his way. No way would I let any stranger mess with my RV. But then you're not me with 30 years of LEO experience.

Totally Agree. Incidents like this occur everywhere you may travel, use common sense.
M & N

Tundra TRD V8 4x4 w/Leer Shell
EU2000i * Prodigy * McKesh * Trek * Renogy * ENU

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
I appreciate the heads up, but I too am having a bit of a hard time understanding letting someone remove a shock.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

rogerddd
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Explorer
What Johnny G said +1. We often stay at a nice RV Camp in Needles and need go gas up near the onramp I40 and Hwy 95. Every time we have stopped at the Mobil or Shell station, we have been approached by someone from one of the other of the stations informing us we have a worn, damaged, etc. tire and offering to fix it and sell a new tire. Consistently a very aggressive approach, even saying once drive "across to my shop and I'll fix it for no charge. I am just worried about you driving with that bad tire."

SageCrispin
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Explorer
In the defense of common sense:
Twice I have been flagged over by individuals on the highway for something wrong on the toad. In each case, I pulled over, but the flagger continued on. Having read this thread, while there are overly helpful people in the world, I will now consider the flagger pulling over with me to be a key item to cause concern.

Thanks to the OP for having the courage to post this. I too have pretty much stopped posting here due to the argumentativeness of the membership. I am however encouraged by the number of people who have written in to shout down the "I told you so's".
We've run out in the house, but the RV has two.

Damon Challenger.
Jeep Unlimited toad

StephJohn2010
Explorer
Explorer
People in Beaver, UT do a similar thing at gas stations. They tell you that something is wrong with your tire when there isn't.
John & Steph
2012 Fleetwood Discovery 40x (35,000 miles)
380 HP Cummins with an Allison Transmission - Freightliner Chassis
2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited Active Drive II

DougE
Explorer
Explorer
Thank you for sharing. Most RVers don't have the mechanic gene to recognize some scams. I would love to have a scam topic area! (Even though I'm a Mechanical Engineer and I do most work on my vehicles.)
Currently Between RVs

fotodog
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Explorer
Iโ€™m the OP. I knew when I posted this message there would be some negative replies. It happens on every forum. I decided it was worth it if it helped someone avoid a similar scam.
Tim, my wife Li, and Snickers and Ziggy the Wonder Kitties

2008 Tiffen Allegro 30DA, Workhorse W22 Chassis, Allison 6 speed, Chevy 8.1L V8
2015 Jeep Cherokee with Blue Ox baseplate & ReadyBrake system

http://www.timandrews.com/ My photography web site

LadyRVer
Explorer II
Explorer II
When you think it can't happen to you, it can. I was in GA, Exit 2, I-75. Went in to pay for gas and dh was in motorhome. A man comes up to him and says "sir, when you pulled in, I saw steam coming out from under your motorhome when you went through that water puddle.. you have a problem and my friend and I can help you out." Now, my late husband was about 95 at the time and I was the driver. I watched the gauges all the way I-75 from near Tampa. No problems... Guy repeated the story to me and said pop the hood... well, I did.. and he turns the fan, said "there is your problem, the fan motor is bad." I can fix it for $200 and will need to go get the part." Can you spell last of our $200? bye bye...? I told him, since I had nothing on gauges indicating a problem, and I had 30 miles to my first stop, I would drive on. Thanked him and left. Wow. Hubby would have fallen in for it immediately. Me? No. Got to cg and told mgr story.. he checked the fan and said that is the way it is supposed to be. But, if I wanted, there was a Ford company in town and on my way out in the morning, have it checked for our peace of mind. I did and it was all good. Scam, scam, scam.

Now that I am on the road alone, Ranger (dog) Ruger and I are more cautious.

BurbMan
Explorer II
Explorer II
Driving a big Class A is like driving a Benz or Bentley....scammers know you have $$$$ and are likely to spend it in the interests of "safety".

I would agree that there is no way that I would let some guy under my rig with tools on the side of the road. I would have thanked him for stopping us, told him we knew all about the problem, and that the parts were already ordered and waiting for us back home.

lots2seeinmyrv
Explorer
Explorer
fotodog...thank you for sharing your story as a reminder to us all to be safe on the road. Possibly by not stopping right on the freeway but go further to a safe place.

Ignore the negative trolls.

lakeside013104
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Explorer
jplante4 wrote:
I read another similar thread here last year involving tires and Utah.

Story

Personally, if he had come out from under my motor home with a shock in his hand, the side of his head would have said "Bilstein" in reverse.



hahahahahahaha.... I like your style.

Lakesie

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
Not saying you are an idiot but you claimed not to be naive, so I don't understand how he got the shock off before you could stop him. They can't be removed without tools.

Someone starts pulling out tools before I agreed to have them do the service, that's a huge red flag and I want to clarify any pricing before he does anything and

I'm sure this is a popular location for this type of scam as you get a lot of snow birds passing thru and many new to RV's and can't physically do the work. If he pulls half a dozen people over each day and gets 1 to give him $1000 cash, that's a $250k/yr scam.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

Kennyg
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2012Coleman wrote:
azdryheat wrote:
You let the guy near your motorhome? You let him crawl under your motorhome? And he removed a shock? And you didn't stop him? Why didn't you just hand him your wallet? If it were me I would have pulled over, listened to him (with my .45 in my waistband) and sent him on his way. No way would I let any stranger mess with my RV. But then you're not me with 30 years of LEO experience.
This is the reason I will never share such information on this particular forum. There is always someone here to tell you what an idiot you are.


Totally agree with your comment
Kennyg

Farmboy666
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Explorer
classic 31 wrote:
We all think it could never happen to you .but under the right circumstances things could happen no matter how smart and on top of thing's you think you are.there is always some one smarter.

Somebody flags me down on the highway, crawls under my RV and removes a shock before I realize it, Yea I think it could never happen to me.