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Diode lighting disappointing

The_Falcon
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Iโ€™ve been a big fan of new tech stuff, so I have followed and supported diode lighting and its introduction for a lot of years. That is, until I started using the bulbs for the RV, home and flashlights.
These things were supposed to last long, provide acceptable lighting, low heat, and savings on energy.
From my experience, none of these things are true although Iโ€™m not sure about the energy savings part because the home bulbs go bad so fast.

Acceptable lighting: Look for yourself compared to others.

Run cool: Check the base of 110 bulb assembly. It will burn your hand and stay hot for a long time after it is turned off.

Long lasting: Iโ€™ve had some $25 home light bulbs fail within 10 days and 6 months. I canโ€™t trust them for safety lighting. I bought them from Home Depot. They claim you will save $85 sometime in the future.

Flashlights: I have some for my RV, cars, and home. Unless you check and clean all contacts regularly, they will be dead when you need them most.

Anyhow, Iโ€™ll keep using fluorescent and regular RV bulbs when I can.
Joe
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Harvey51
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I replaced our RV incandescents with low cost eBay warm white 36 and 48 led panels. I noticed right away that they got hot on shore power, 13.5 volts. Not at 12.5 volts from the batteries. No doubt they would not last long running over voltage. We never plug in while camping so it isn't a problem for us. If we did, I would have to find panels with built in voltage regulation or add a voltage regulator to each light. Our 36 panels seem to be exactly the same brightness and color as the old bulbs.

I have only two LED lights at home, both in places where they are on a lot. MIL can leave her bed reading light on continuously for about $5 a year. Same for the porch light. Others are all four foot fluorescents - I really like the large emission area compared to small incandescents. Compact fluorescents were just not bright enough.
2004 E350 Adventurer (Canadian) 20 footer - Alberta, Canada
No TV + 100W solar = no generator needed

Jarlaxle
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Explorer II
bob_b wrote:
My first experience with the LED lights wasn't good. I bought 5 LED candelabra bulbs from EBay. They all burnt out within two weeks. The seller sent me some more for free, but the same thing happened. I see LED marker lights on trucks and it seems some are having problems. I've heard that some of Chinese manufacturers market low-voltage lights in higher voltage applications and they fail prematurely. Quality control still seems to be an issue.

At home I have the CFL lights. For the motorhome, I'll stick with the regular lights. I'll wait a few years for the LED lights to get reliable.


All the trucks & most of the trailers at work have LED lights...we have not replaced one for any reason other than actual physical DAMAGE in eight years! Of its eighteen LED marker lights, my truck has 17 original.
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

Jarlaxle
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Explorer II
I have a few LED lights in my bus...no complaints. I don't use them at home...I have no reason to replace my CFL's.
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

Tom_M1
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Here's a link to a test I did when I upgraded some of my fixtures: LED comparison

I haven't used my motorhome since the upgrade so I have no track record on how long they will last. I'll find out this winter when I head for Florida.
Tom
2005 Born Free 24RB
170ah Renogy LiFePo4 drop-in battery 400 watts solar
Towing 2016 Mini Cooper convertible on tow dolly
Minneapolis, MN

tenbear
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Explorer
belfert wrote:
I replaced some halogen bulbs in puck lights in my RV with LED bulbs. The main reason for the replacement was heat. The LED bulbs I chose have 28 LEDs and they still get plenty warm. Not nearly as hot as the halogen, but not cool either.


I would guess that you used 28-5050 LED lights. I would also guess that the 28-5050 LEDs are brighter than the halogens.
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belfert
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Explorer
I replaced some halogen bulbs in puck lights in my RV with LED bulbs. The main reason for the replacement was heat. The LED bulbs I chose have 28 LEDs and they still get plenty warm. Not nearly as hot as the halogen, but not cool either.

tenbear
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I replaced my interior RV lighting with LEDs and am very happy with the results. I did it to extend battery life while camping off the grid. The lights are a similar brightness and color, the current drain is about 15% of the incandescent bulbs.

A string of 3 LEDs have failed in some of the first LEDs I bought resulting in a small loss of light, but newer ones have been good. Recently I bought some spares and bought from a different vendor who was much cheaper. The panels were very much inferior to the other LEDs, I probably will never use them. I bought all my LEDs on eBay.

I have one LED bulb in the sticks and bricks house. We have had it about a year and it has performed flawlessly. Its on a dimmer and is on 1-2 hours a day. I'll buy more when the CFLs die or when the price comes down.
Class C, 2004/5 Four Winds Dutchman Express 28A, Chevy chassis
2010 Subaru Impreza Sedan
Camped in 45 states, 7 Provinces and 1 Territory

bob_b1
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My first experience with the LED lights wasn't good. I bought 5 LED candelabra bulbs from EBay. They all burnt out within two weeks. The seller sent me some more for free, but the same thing happened. I see LED marker lights on trucks and it seems some are having problems. I've heard that some of Chinese manufacturers market low-voltage lights in higher voltage applications and they fail prematurely. Quality control still seems to be an issue.

At home I have the CFL lights. For the motorhome, I'll stick with the regular lights. I'll wait a few years for the LED lights to get reliable.
'93 Itasca Suncrusier diesel towing a '05 Honda CR-V.
Bob, Pam(DW), Bridget(DD) and Christine(DD)
See you at most of the Penn State tailgates:)

mlts22
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Explorer
smkettner wrote:
I agree that if you do not run the battery low with incandescent lamps there is no need to spend money on LED.


Saving energy from the battery is why I buy LED bulbs. If I were going from hookups to hookups, I'd not bother upgrading until bulbs went out.

They make a world of difference when boondocking. To further save on battery power, I use AAA-battery powered stick-on LED lights, since I can recharge the smaller batteries either in the car or at home, or at worst, use the 20 amp-hour external battery meant for charging my iPad with charger.

filthy_beast
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This is the second RV we have changed to LED lighting because we often RV without hookups. I have never had an issue with excessive heat or bulbs going bad. The last RV had them in for 5 years. I also have had no issues with radio interference. I spend a little more for the bulbs through Superbrightleds but have had real good results. I am also aware of the color temp we like.

Aside from the fact that we do boondocks, and I am sure some will give me guff, it does lower your carbon footprint. Yes I know I am dragging a house behind me and that leaves a pretty good carbon footprint too.

Just my 2 cents worth.

I have recently changed some of the more used bulbs in my home to LED. I bought LED under cabinet lights in the kitchen and did some up lighting also. The xenon bulbs I had left scorched marks where they were mounted.
Goody Two Shoes and the Filthy Beast
2008 Silverado 2500HD
2012 Wildcat 282RKX

You cannot make things idiot proof, you can only make them idiot resistant.

time2roll
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I agree that if you do not run the battery low with incandescent lamps there is no need to spend money on LED.

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Dakzuki wrote:
Thats_Ok wrote:
I was going to jump on the LED bandwagon for the RV then one day I realized: "I don't care"... We turn the lights on when needed then off.

If it's dark we're normally sleeping or viewing TV or sometimes outside by one of those horribly irritating (to many people) campfires.
Besides we have a few LED nitelite candles that are pretty cool for use in the trailer, they last forever.

As far as home use LED's or LED flashlights no failures yet.


I do care. We dry camp a lot and battery conservation is high on the list when we do. I converted to LEDs and managed to mimic the original lighting quite closely. In fact you cannot tell the difference in the LED ceiling lights form the G4 bulbs that were there. So far so good after a few months.


Well that's awesome ๐Ÿ™‚

When I can buy LED bulbs at Kmart for the same price as an 1156 then maybe.
I'm still not going to go to the trouble for what I believe would be low benefit for us.
We just don't run that many lights or leave them on.

Sorry if my "I don't care" comment got yer goat.

Dakzuki
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Thats_Ok wrote:
I was going to jump on the LED bandwagon for the RV then one day I realized: "I don't care"... We turn the lights on when needed then off.

If it's dark we're normally sleeping or viewing TV or sometimes outside by one of those horribly irritating (to many people) campfires.
Besides we have a few LED nitelite candles that are pretty cool for use in the trailer, they last forever.

As far as home use LED's or LED flashlights no failures yet.

Sorry about yer bad experiences there Joe.


I do care. We dry camp a lot and battery conservation is high on the list when we do. I converted to LEDs and managed to mimic the original lighting quite closely. In fact you cannot tell the difference in the LED ceiling lights form the G4 bulbs that were there. So far so good after a few months.
2011 Itasca Navion 24J
2000 Chev Tracker Toad

MacManOne
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I had some bad experiences with LED lighting in our RV around 2005. We were preparing for extensive boondocking and wanted to save power everywhere we could.

Since then products have improved. I haven't tried LED lighting in our current RV, however I have several LED products that perform wonderfully:

Flashlights: My wife and I both carry Streamlight mini flashlights and they are awesome. I use an LED dive light that is twice as bright as a comparable filament bulb light and I'll never go back!

LCD screen backlighting: The LED backlighting in my laptop and HDTV is excellent.
Mac & Chris
2001 National Islander, 330 Cummins Diesel
2008 Honda CRV toad
Full-Time 9/2004 to 4/2013
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