Propane..unlawful to have fridge on...is incorrect...

[garyhaupt]

I had no idea and although this is a Canadan quote, the thread suggests that many states have similar. Whch doesn't surprise me..usually Canada follows suit.

http://drivesmartbc.ca/rvs/operating-rvs-propane

Which begs the question...I wonder how many people travel with the fridge on?

I have now been in voice contact with an inspection officer with the CVSE..that is the truckers law kids, in BC..and to his knowledge, there are no regulations pertaining to this.


Gary Haupt

[Dutch_12078]

Gene&Ginny wrote:

gotsmart wrote:
Having read this thread, I am now giving consideration to posting this at the head of the bed in the MH:

I am glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read that. :B

A friend of ours has a sign similar to that posted in his bathroom. :B

[Gene_Ginny]

gotsmart wrote:
Having read this thread, I am now giving consideration to posting this at the head of the bed in the MH:

I am glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read that. :B

[Harvey51]

I found a National Fire Protection Association report on fires at gas stations. This link first takes you to a page where you can open an account. Once signed up you can download the report by using this link again.

link to NFPA report

NFPA wrote:
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there were 117,000 gasoline stations in the United States in 2007. During 2004-2008, an estimated average of 5,020 fires were reported in and around these properties per year,

I'm not very good at looking through 50 page reports but it appears there aren't enough RV caused fires at gas stations to earn a mention in the report.

[Ron3rd]

garyhaupt wrote:
I had no idea and although this is a Canadan quote, the thread suggests that many states have similar. Whch doesn't surprise me..usually Canada follows suit.

http://drivesmartbc.ca/rvs/operating-rvs-propane

Which begs the question...I wonder how many people travel with the fridge on?

I have now been in voice contact with an inspection officer with the CVSE..that is the truckers law kids, in BC..and to his knowledge, there are no regulations pertaining to this.


Gary Haupt

I always travel with the propane one. Have been for 13 years.

[wa8yxm]

There are some places in the US where you will be asked to turn off the Propane before entering into/onto a bridge or tunnel. And once you exit you may turn it back on. I agree with those laws as they are not at all burdensome and the Fridge is good for several hours without power of any kind.. It usually takes less than 10 minutes to cross or pass through the bridge or tunnel.

How big an issue is it? I have no clue. but I've only had to turn it off one time

When traveling I subscribe to the following theory:
IF the Fridge is going to start a fire while running on Propane, then it can happen when I'm going down the road, In which case other drivers can AVOID.. My rig is toast, but then my rig is toast in the next case too.

If it happens when RV's are packed into a fairgrounds like sardines in a can at the next FMCA gathering I attend, Well then my rig is toast, as is the million dollar Prevost beside me, and the one on the other side, and perhaps a couple more.

I think my insurance should be happier with just one new RV to buy.

[ol__yeller]

ol Bombero-JC wrote:

D.E.Bishop wrote:
In reply to Oregon's " Safety Law and Pumping Your Own Gas", that might be what it is called but it's not for safety, the law was and is to create jobs, Period. It is also a "Safety Law" that prohibits crushing aluminum cans and then trying to redeem them for the nickel deposit. If you believe that those are safety laws, I've got some excellent ocean front property for sale.

Right arm, D.E. !!

Some of the Oregon make-work "safety" employees shouldn't be allowed to fill a cup of water!..:(

Although *YOU* are not permitted to pump your own gasoline - it's a good plan to stand and watch what goes into your *fuel* tank...:W

Food (fuel) for thought - -
Ever wonder why the Oregon employees are *not* allowed to pump diesel??..:R..:S

~

Interesting. Every time I took my collector car to a car show in Oregon they always allowed me to pump my own gas after asking if I wanted to do it myself. I think they were intimidated by the fill-up behind the license plate.

[ol_Bombero-JC]

D.E.Bishop wrote:
In reply to Oregon's " Safety Law and Pumping Your Own Gas", that might be what it is called but it's not for safety, the law was and is to create jobs, Period. It is also a "Safety Law" that prohibits crushing aluminum cans and then trying to redeem them for the nickel deposit. If you believe that those are safety laws, I've got some excellent ocean front property for sale.

Right arm, D.E. !!

Some of the Oregon make-work "safety" employees shouldn't be allowed to fill a cup of water!..:(

Although *YOU* are not permitted to pump your own gasoline - it's a good plan to stand and watch what goes into your *fuel* tank...:W

Food (fuel) for thought - -
Ever wonder why the Oregon employees are *not* allowed to pump diesel??..:R..:S

~

[gotsmart]

Having read this thread, I am now giving consideration to posting this at the head of the bed in the MH:

[garyhaupt]

Old-Biscuit...."Is it time for your medication or mine?"

Funny you should have that as your tag line.


Gary Haupt

[Old-Biscuit]

garyhaupt wrote:
As noted in the original post..and as I had said I would do, which was to report back...

I have now been in voice contact with an inspection officer with the CVSE..that is the truckers law, in BC..and to his knowledge, there are no regulations pertaining to this.


Gary Haupt

WHAT......no law, no restrictions, no regulations.

How can that be with propane so dangerous.....all those fires/explosions/loss of life-limb.

Oh the Horror.

Wondered why I hadn't seen commercials from lawyers wanting to handle all those RV Propane cases.

[Dutch_12078]

Oaklevel wrote:
Not a law but with up to 4000 RV refrigerators a year why risk one while driving...... http://cjbfire.com/RVRef-Fires.pdf

As Drew pointed out, the 4000 annual fires cited in your linked article are from all sources. The NFPA's numbers make it clear that the majority of on the road motorized RV fires are engine or driveline related. The article also points out that the refrigerator is sometimes wrongly blamed as the fire source. The fridge vents make a ready source of oxygen to fuel a fire starting from another nearby source, with the resulting burn pattern giving the appearance that the fridge was the cause. In my own coach for instance, the furnace, water heater, and stove are all within a few feet of the fridge and its vent system.

It has been found that one of the most common appliances to be blamed as cause in recreational vehicle fires is the refrigerator. Because these appliances are not well understood, many times it is determined after testing that these appliances were erroneously blamed as cause.

[DrewE]

Oaklevel wrote:
Not a law but with up to 4000 RV refrigerators a year why risk one while driving...... http://cjbfire.com/RVRef-Fires.pdf

Did you read the linked article? It stated that there were, on average, 4000 RV fires every year from all causes. While refrigerator fires are probably among the more common causes of RV fires, they are far from being the only cause, or even the primary cause overall. (Engine fires, trailer brake/bearing fires, and electrical fires are also significant contributors, I believe.)

Whatever minuscule increased risk of fire there is while driving with the fridge on, I personally will take it for the very real advantages of having ice cream that is not liquid and meat that stays unspoiled longer. If other people feel otherwise, they of course should feel free to avoid driving with their fridges running.

[Oaklevel]

Not a law but with up to 4000 RV refrigerators a year why risk one while driving...... http://cjbfire.com/RVRef-Fires.pdf

[beemerphile1]

garyhaupt wrote:
As noted in the original post..and as I had said I would do, which was to report back...

I have now been in voice contact with an inspection officer with the CVSE..that is the truckers law, in BC..and to his knowledge, there are no regulations pertaining to this.


Gary Haupt

Thanks for the update.