Tip: "Tractor" fuel = RV diesel

[Rice]

I was refueling at a place that uses a touch-screen for paying at the truck pump. After I swiped my credit card, the following questions appeared:

Tractor fuel: yes no

I pressed "no" because I'm not agricultural or whatever.

Then it said:

Reefer fuel: yes no

I pressed "no" and it came up and said "no fuel" and cancelled the transaction.

I went inside and found out that "tractor fuel" is just regular diesel. So they tried to run my card in there and problems ensued because of their terminal, and I gave up. And at the next place, my card was declined because my credit card company had detected fraud.

The moral of this story: if you're filling your motorhome and see "tractor fuel" on a screen, press "yes."

[Don___Barb_Bogu]

Yes and Daniel Boon was a tractor and a trailer... I have never seen anyone checking except at a smog check station.

[ralphnjoann]

wa8yxm wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
All off road diesel is ULSD in the US and Canada. Has been for a while. No difference from on road except the dye.

no. road tax is only charged for on road vehicles. That by the way is what the dye is for.. It is the "Tax Stamp".

I don't think he's talking about taxable or tax exempt when he says there is no difference. I think he's saying it's all the same fuel but that which is tax exempt has dye in it.

[wa8yxm]

Grit dog wrote:
All off road diesel is ULSD in the US and Canada. Has been for a while. No difference from on road except the dye.

no. road tax is only charged for on road vehicles. That by the way is what the dye is for.. It is the "Tax Stamp".

[JaxDad]

Rice wrote:
I went inside and found out that "tractor fuel" is just regular diesel.

I suppose that's because they call those big trucks "TRACTOR trailers".

[srt20]

Grit dog wrote:
All off road diesel is ULSD in the US and Canada. Has been for a while. No difference from on road except the dye.

X2

And off road fuel (red dyed) does NOT hurt the newer emissions diesels either.

I live in farm country and have never ever seen a pick up get checked for red diesel. We even have a livestock yard close by.

[Grit_dog]

All off road diesel is ULSD in the US and Canada. Has been for a while. No difference from on road except the dye.

[Cummins12V98]

Truck stops I have been to you have to go inside to pre pay. Tell them RV and if you are wanting DEF.

Wife goes in tells pump # then pre pays a dollar amount that will exceed. She shops while I fuel. I call her ring twice hangup she pays on our way!

[wa8yxm]

Ok, Well as I said I was confused by the title of the thread. But the meaning became clear to ME when I read the post.
Some info about me.. I grew up on a dairy farm, So I know about farm tractors, My mother was a tax expert (It turns out) so I know about the tax exemption.

MOST farmers have their own Fuel storage tank.. For this reason they do not fill their tractors up at the gas station. They fill 'em up at home.

Of course "Most" might not = All.. I have filled up a lawn mower at a gas station on occasion.

I have also driven a Semi Tractor (and a host of other vehicles).. So I know that a Semi is also called a "Tractor-Trailer" rig.

[valhalla360]

Yeah, if you get caught, it's a big ticket but unless you give them a reason, they generally aren't checking pickups for dyed fuel.

I seriously doubt the off road fuel will not be ULSD. The gas stations don't want to mess with farmers with quarter million dollar equipment coming back and demanding why it wasn't clearly labeled. Plus I believe, they use the same tank and add the dye as it's pumped.

[RandACampin]

Can anyone show a case where someone got busted for off road fuel?

[ol_Bombero-JC]

1320Fastback wrote:
If your caught you deal with the IRS and your local Franchise Tax Board.

"Franchise Tax Board" - CA term.

In many states, (particularly in rural areas where dyed fuel is readily available) - the DOT and/or state patrol/police/hwy patrol will randomly check diesel pickups for dyed fuel.

Becomes *VERY* expensive fuel!.:(

Even as an accidental fill-up, dyed fuel may *not* be ULSD, which will cause late model diesel (pickup) engines to go into limp mode. When brought to the dealer - you will become your own warranty station..:(

Nothing to do with dyed fuel - but *carefully* plan ahead for any sojourns into Mexico. ULSD is *not* readily available (if at all) once past border towns..:(

~

[stickdog]

I ran into that screen in NM this past winter at an unmanned filling station did the same thing pushed no for tractor and then the Q for refer fuel popped up I figured it out and cancelled the transaction. I did start over and had no problem with my card.
Generally there is a second pump plainly marked OFF ROAD FUEL

[1320Fastback]

If your caught you deal with the IRS and your local Franchise Tax Board.

[Terryallan]

Rice wrote:
I was refueling at a place that uses a touch-screen for paying at the truck pump. After I swiped my credit card, the following questions appeared:

Tractor fuel: yes no

I pressed "no" because I'm not agricultural or whatever.

Then it said:

Reefer fuel: yes no

I pressed "no" and it came up and said "no fuel" and cancelled the transaction.

I went inside and found out that "tractor fuel" is just regular diesel. So they tried to run my card in there and problems ensued because of their terminal, and I gave up. And at the next place, my card was declined because my credit card company had detected fraud.

The moral of this story: if you're filling your motorhome and see "tractor fuel" on a screen, press "yes."

however. IF it meant farm tractor fuel, and you are caught running it. It won't be cheap. Often. the pumps are side by side.

[sch911]

Pretty much every Pilot Flying J truck pump has that interface.

Also, it's highly illegal to run the off road dyed diesel in your RV. That's why it has dye in it.