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ford_coupe
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Any one know of new law in Michigan about having an endorsement to haul doubles in Mi.?
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shakyjay
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That is why I asked the question.
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nevadanick
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2 bumper pulls is perfectly leagal in Ca

shakyjay
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Why would they check to see if you have a fifth wheel?
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Raften
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Towing doubles in CA is so confusing to most CHP that they just seem to check that you have a fifth wheel and under 65 feet .
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gijoecam
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Michigan requires an endorsement on your license for 'Recreational Doubles.' No CDL required provided, of course, you're not doing it for commercial purposes.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/recreational_double_21025_7.pdf

As others have mentioned, other states may have different requirements.

Tango__AE7UI
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Good advice from mowermech.
I might add the similarity to boating rules which vary from state to state, even states sharing the same body of water.
Utah is a good example; Bear Lake shared with Idaho and Utah, Flaming Gorge with Wyoming and Utah and Lake Powell with Arizona and Utah.
And in most cases Utah is for restrictive.
In short you need to know the rules of the state your operating/driving in.
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nevadanick
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Yep, check with each state you plan to travel in. I'm gonna guess that Golden doesnt pull doubles so hasnt checked the states actual rules.

mowermech
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Golden_HVAC wrote:
Probably like the other states.

Have a commercial license, keep a log book, and make sure your medical endorcement is current.

You will not need to go through the scales like a commercial truck, but still have to follow the hours of service for a commercial truck.

You will also need to pay attention to the overall length, and have brakes on all trailers.

I have heard the forward trailer must be a fifth wheel in most states, though some states allow both trailers to be bumper pull.

Good luck!

Fred.


Lots of misinformation there.
Yes, California DOES require a Class A CDL with doubles endorsement for towing recreational doubles. That is because that license is the only one that can carry the doubles endorsement.
I don't know about the other CDL issues (medical card, hours of service, logbook, etc.), but I have heard that it doesn't apply to CA RV users. CA is the only state I have heard of that has this requirement for licensing.
Yes, each state has its own maximum length and brake requirements. It is up to the owner/operator to know the requirements in every state in which they operate. Reciprocity probably does not apply!
Many states allow towing two bumper pull trailers. Again, it is up to the owner/operator to know the law. Again, Reciprocity does not apply.
DO NOT trust any list of towing laws that you may find on the internet. Nearly ALL of them have been shown to be inaccurate. check the laws in YOUR state, and any state you plan to enter.
KNOW the law where you are, and COMPLY with the law. If you do that, you won't have to rely on luck!
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past-MIdirector
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PFitt has it right on the test and R also you can only double tow behind a 5er. You also want to check with your insurance company if you do double tow to insure you have that trailer and contents covered. Some insurance companies do not cover the second trailer without an additional rider to your policy!!

PFitt
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MI requires an R endorsment just a test at S.S. no cdl for rv doubles

Mickeyfan0805
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ford coupe wrote:
Any one know of new law in Michigan about having an endorsement to haul doubles in Mi.?


We moved from MI two years ago. We're back visiting a couple weeks ago and noticed a number of doubles (something I've never seen before in MI). I'm assuming there must have been some sort of change recently.

nevadanick
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Checknwith your state not here. I live in Nv, dont need a CDL but i have one, dont need med card to pull doubles with Endorsement for doubles on reg lic, dont need a log book and can pull 2 bumper pulls in many states inc Ca.

Golden_HVAC
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Probably like the other states.

Have a commercial license, keep a log book, and make sure your medical endorcement is current.

You will not need to go through the scales like a commercial truck, but still have to follow the hours of service for a commercial truck.

You will also need to pay attention to the overall length, and have brakes on all trailers.

I have heard the forward trailer must be a fifth wheel in most states, though some states allow both trailers to be bumper pull.

Good luck!

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