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โFeb-10-2016 01:37 PM
ramgunner wrote:
I'll let you in on a secret. In my experience as an instructor and having dealt with both LE and CFP holders, I can say that the majority of CFP holders are better shots than the majority of LE. There are exceptions, but this holds true for the majority.
โFeb-10-2016 06:47 AM
spoon059 wrote:
If you want to carry, you should be practicing those skills on a more regular basis anyways.
โFeb-10-2016 06:40 AM
beemerphile1 wrote:ramgunner wrote:
...I don't generally travel where my permit is not honored. It means that some trips might take a little longer as I avoid those states where it is not valid, but I spend money in places that allow me to defend my family if required. Freedom is worth it.
I agree and also vote with my $$. If they don't want me, they don't get my $$.
โFeb-10-2016 04:21 AM
Whiskey River wrote:It makes for good sound bites, "crime rates are correlated with gun laws", for either side of the argument; but I'll bet if you carefully look at the data you'll find no correlation between presence/absence of strict gun laws and crime rates. I'll also bet that there is a better correlation between crime rates and population density than with absence/presence of strict gun laws. Finally, correlation does not imply or prove causation.
Nice post ramgunner.
Look at the crime rates of some of the cities in states not listed as reciprocity / recognition for conceal carry.
New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Massachusetts, California
It is next to impossible to get a carry license in those states unless you are former law enforcement. But who has the guns??? All hoodlums and gang members.
โFeb-10-2016 03:02 AM
W4RLR wrote:
I have a Tennessee Handgun Permit. In order to get that permit I had to:
Attend an eight hour long classroom session which dealt with issues on where it was legal to carry and where it was not legal to carry. Also where the handgun permit was valid and where it was not.
Go to a range and fire fifty rounds at a target from various distances.
Go to the local law enforcement agency to be fingerprinted.
Send the completed paperwork to Nashville for a criminal records check, along with a rather sizable non-refundable fee.
So I had to do all of that just to exercise a constitutional right. If I want to purchase another firearm, I have to go through TWO background checks, one from the FBI and one from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. If Virginia said that Tennessee was not strict enough in its granting of concealed carry permits, how much more thorough could they be?
I might add the average thug on the streets with a weapon does not have to do any of the preceding steps to carry a firearm. He or she just gets a firearm from where criminals get their firearms, no muss, no fuss, and no paperwork.
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โFeb-09-2016 06:35 PM
ramgunner wrote:
...I don't generally travel where my permit is not honored. It means that some trips might take a little longer as I avoid those states where it is not valid, but I spend money in places that allow me to defend my family if required. Freedom is worth it.
โFeb-09-2016 03:28 PM
Whiskey River wrote:
Nice post ramgunner.
Look at the crime rates of some of the cities in states not listed as reciprocity / recognition for conceal carry.
New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Massachusetts, California
It is next to impossible to get a carry license in those states unless you are former law enforcement. But who has the guns??? All hoodlums and gang members.
โFeb-09-2016 03:13 PM
rockhillmanor wrote:
When I became a full timer I went to apply for one and after talking to the instructor and being informed of all the different laws each state had about carrying and/or just having guns in the MH I opted for not doing it. How could one possibliy be up to date about the regulations for each and every state they traveled thru? Just saying. I didn't want to have to sit on the computer researching the next state I was about to enter to see if I would be legal on that day. The OP's post shows just that.
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โFeb-09-2016 11:07 AM
We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
โFeb-09-2016 10:36 AM