โSep-28-2017 08:53 AM
โOct-03-2017 07:34 PM
โOct-03-2017 08:00 AM
mkirsch wrote:
Ford simply isn't confident enough in the EB engine to handle that kind of continuous work, and don't see enough of a benefit in designing a larger turbo gas engine to make it worthwhile.
It would be nice to have the option of getting the 3.5L EB in an F250 or F350, if you're going to use the truck for occasional towing only, but I'm sure Ford is afraid that people will order trucks in with EB's to do "real work" and be disappointed in the longevity of the engine.
โOct-03-2017 07:38 AM
โOct-02-2017 09:32 AM
โSep-30-2017 06:53 PM
โSep-30-2017 06:28 PM
mich800 wrote:atwowheelguy wrote:intheburbs wrote:
My only concern with the 3.5EB would be durability. Ford recommends replacing the turbos at 150k miles. I'm guessing that's not a cheap job. I drive my trucks until they fall apart. Won't be getting an EB any time soon.
Forced induction puts more stresses on driveline components. Why do you think it took so long for Jeep to come out with the AWD Trackhawk, with the Hellcat motor? They were having durability issues with the AWD system handling a 700-hp motor. I believe in the end, the engine is slightly detuned to 650 hp.
I love my hotrod all-aluminum 6.2 Sierra Denali, but for towing, I'll take my cast-iron block 6.0. She loves to rev, and does fine for me. 170k miles and she still purrs like a kitten and uses no oil.
I can't find that turbo replacement recommendation anywhere in the scheduled maintenance section of my owner's manual. I'm at 112,000 miles now and I need that information. Give us a link to that documentation somewhere.
Because there is none.
โSep-30-2017 05:50 PM
atwowheelguy wrote:intheburbs wrote:
My only concern with the 3.5EB would be durability. Ford recommends replacing the turbos at 150k miles. I'm guessing that's not a cheap job. I drive my trucks until they fall apart. Won't be getting an EB any time soon.
Forced induction puts more stresses on driveline components. Why do you think it took so long for Jeep to come out with the AWD Trackhawk, with the Hellcat motor? They were having durability issues with the AWD system handling a 700-hp motor. I believe in the end, the engine is slightly detuned to 650 hp.
I love my hotrod all-aluminum 6.2 Sierra Denali, but for towing, I'll take my cast-iron block 6.0. She loves to rev, and does fine for me. 170k miles and she still purrs like a kitten and uses no oil.
I can't find that turbo replacement recommendation anywhere in the scheduled maintenance section of my owner's manual. I'm at 112,000 miles now and I need that information. Give us a link to that documentation somewhere.
โSep-30-2017 04:35 PM
intheburbs wrote:
My only concern with the 3.5EB would be durability. Ford recommends replacing the turbos at 150k miles. I'm guessing that's not a cheap job. I drive my trucks until they fall apart. Won't be getting an EB any time soon.
Forced induction puts more stresses on driveline components. Why do you think it took so long for Jeep to come out with the AWD Trackhawk, with the Hellcat motor? They were having durability issues with the AWD system handling a 700-hp motor. I believe in the end, the engine is slightly detuned to 650 hp.
I love my hotrod all-aluminum 6.2 Sierra Denali, but for towing, I'll take my cast-iron block 6.0. She loves to rev, and does fine for me. 170k miles and she still purrs like a kitten and uses no oil.
โSep-30-2017 10:39 AM
burningman wrote:
I'm with Grit Dog... it's simple... because if you want power like that, they DO already offer it, with Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax engines! When you want heavy duty towing power you don't want a gas engine, turbo or not. It'll use fuel like mad.
It's definitely not a drivetrain durability issue, or they couldn't offer the 800+ ft/lbs diesel engines either.
Generalizing almost too much, supercharged (or turbo'ed) gas engines are for situations requiring high output and light weight, such as muscle cars and race cars that haul "tail" not trailers.
Diesels are the way to go in heavier applications.
โSep-30-2017 10:11 AM
โSep-29-2017 01:53 PM
โSep-29-2017 01:27 PM
wowens79 wrote:SidecarFlip wrote:
Problem with the 150's in any form is thay may have the balls to yank about anything but brakes, not enough and not enough frame to be stable. IMO, the only thing a 1/4 ton truck is good for is 5 bags of groceries.
That's the point of this thread is wanting the brakes, payload, and frame of a 3/4 ton, with an engine with a more advanced and powerful engine than what is offered without having to go all they way to a diesel.
For me, I'm towing around 8000lbs, so my 2002 GM 6.0 with a 4 speed struggles, but I really don't need a diesel, but would like a good bump in power. Currently I'm leaning to a Ram 6.4 gasser. It seems to have the most power, yet with the cylinder shut off, it gets decent milage.
โSep-29-2017 01:08 PM
SidecarFlip wrote:
Problem with the 150's in any form is thay may have the balls to yank about anything but brakes, not enough and not enough frame to be stable. IMO, the only thing a 1/4 ton truck is good for is 5 bags of groceries.
โSep-29-2017 12:56 PM
โSep-29-2017 12:54 PM