2011 Chev silverado 2500 2962# capacity updated

[br549redneck]

Looking to purchase the above truck 2011 silverado 2500 ext cab LT diesel. Payload 3200# towing capacity 17,000#. I am wanting to pull a 28'-34' 5th wheel. Just guessing weights around 12-14K will I have enough truck? Anyone towing with the 2011 2500 ? This will replace the low towing capacity of my 2011 ram with the 5.7 hemi and 3.73. Thank you for any input you have to offer.
Mark

[blt2ski]

Thunderbolt wrote:

blt2ski wrote:

Thunderbolt wrote:
From my understanding GM's cargo capacity accounts for a 150lb person in every seating position and a full tank of fuel.

This is true IF you use the number in the glove box for max camper load. The door sticker payload is the sum of the cargo plus the seatbelts time 150.

Marty

On my 03 I think the number in the glove box and on the door are the same.I will have to look.

The door should equal the glovebox plus the seats per 150. At least it does on my last three GM trucks........ This even works back to the FIRST new GM I bought back in 81. Not that there was a door sticker to deal with at the time. It did have a glove box max camper load, which equaled that trucks tare plus 450 subtracted from the 8600 gvwr it had.

Marty

[br549redneck]

Ok thank you for your replies. I think this truck will do what I need. It will be a big step up from the 2500 ram gasser. Now need to find a good used 5th wheel.

[APT]

Thunderbolt wrote:
From my understanding GM's cargo capacity accounts for a 150lb person in every seating position and a full tank of fuel.

The NTSHA required Tire and Loading sticker includes no people. The sentence even says combined weight of occupants and cargo. This assumes no driver, no passengers, no cargo, but full of all fluids including fuel. It isn't Ford or Toyota or any other company's decision rather federal government defined.

[Thunderbolt]

blt2ski wrote:

Thunderbolt wrote:
From my understanding GM's cargo capacity accounts for a 150lb person in every seating position and a full tank of fuel.

This is true IF you use the number in the glove box for max camper load. The door sticker payload is the sum of the cargo plus the seatbelts time 150.

Marty

On my 03 I think the number in the glove box and on the door are the same.I will have to look.

[blt2ski]

Thunderbolt wrote:
From my understanding GM's cargo capacity accounts for a 150lb person in every seating position and a full tank of fuel.

This is true IF you use the number in the glove box for max camper load. The door sticker payload is the sum of the cargo plus the seatbelts time 150.

Marty

[Thunderbolt]

From my understanding GM's cargo capacity accounts for a 150lb person in every seating position and a full tank of fuel.

[JIMNLIN]

br549redneck wrote:
Looking to purchase the above truck 2011 silverado 2500 ext cab LT diesel. Payload 3200# towing capacity 17,000#. I am wanting to pull a 28'-34' 5th wheel. Just guessing weights around 12-14K will I have enough truck? Anyone towing with the 2011 2500 ? This will replace the low towing capacity of my 2011 ram with the 5.7 hemi and 3.73. Thank you for any input you have to offer.
Mark

Length of a trailer now days is meaning less. Some 34' 5th wheel trailers with 4 slides will overload the trucks RAWR/tire load ratings.
But ...some 34' 5th wheel trailers will fit just fine the 2500 truck your looking at.

I would stick with a 12k-13k 5th wheel trailer for that 2500 GM truck.

[gmcsmoke]

spud1957 wrote:


Just to clear it up. The capacity sticker takes into account a full tank of fuel and all fluids. The sticker says "occupants and cargo". Says nothing about fuel. In this example the OP has an add'l 288 pounds of payload.

:thumbs

[APT]

wintersun wrote:

My 2011 2500HD...I added SuperSprings to boost this to 5,000 lbs...I put on tires rated at 3750@80 PSI...I could boost that by going to 19.5 rims and tires

So how much did you spend on aftermarket stuff vs. just getting the SRW 1-ton from the factory? MSRP new is $200-1000 from the big 3 3/4 to 1-ton for same equipment.

[ib516]

wintersun wrote:


My 2011 2500HD has the exact same axle and wheel bearings as the 3500HD trucks. Only difference is that my axle is rated at 6700 lbs. which is 200 lbs. greater than that of the 3500HD SRW. The rear axle weight of my truck is less than 3200 lbs. leaving a payload of 3500 lbs. in its stock configuration. I added SuperSprings to boost this to 5,000 lbs.

You can't "boost" your payload by adding do-dads.

I'd like to see your GAWR sticker that says 6700#. I think you need your eyes checked.

I'd bet it's 6200# just like this 4wd 2011 2500HD.



The 2011 3500 SRWs are 7050#.

Proof (note front GAWR as this is from a 2wd):


You need to get your facts right. BS helps no one.

[blt2ski]

wintersun wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Power no issue, where did you get the payload info from? if from a brochure, the payload is probably less than that. If off the door sticker, then that payload is what you have.

Marty

Why make statements off the top of your head like this? It helps NO ONE.

My 2011 2500HD has the exact same axle and wheel bearings as the 3500HD trucks. Only difference is that my axle is rated at 6700 lbs. which is 200 lbs. greater than that of the 3500HD SRW. The rear axle weight of my truck is less than 3200 lbs. leaving a payload of 3500 lbs. in its stock configuration. I added SuperSprings to boost this to 5,000 lbs.

Then the limiting factor is the two rims and tires at the rear axle. With the 17" GM aluminum rims the load capacity for the pair is 7600 lbs. and I put on tires rated at 3750@80 PSI or 7500 lbs. for the pair. That provides a payload of 7500 minus 3200 or 4300 lbs. for the truck. I could boost that by going to 19.5 rims and tires which would have a rear axle load capacity of 8800 lbs. and still be under the load rating for the AAM axle and wheel bearings which is 10,900 lbs.

Payload ratings from all the truck manufacturers are calculated for each truck based on how it was configured at the factory. The same trucks but with different wheels and tires can have payload rating difference of more than 50%. Go to any dealer's lot and you can verify this in minutes and not rely on what you "think" is true.

Actually, what you say it true to a degree. BUT, if one really wants to worry about what one can do, I can get 10500 lbs on the RA and not do a dang thing to it, as long as I have the correct paid for license tag! Not that I would recommend it mind you! And most of the SW RA wts have been in the 2000-2500 lbs range for ALL of my trucks like the one the OP is considering empty wt wise. Dually's have been in the 2800-3500 range. My MDT is 5900 of a 15500 rating on the rear empty! That one is licensed at 26K lbs, I could go to 32K with all of 18K worth of tires and springs........I know all the tricks of what is legal vs recommended vs _______________

Marty

[APT]

Good research BR549. So at about 3000 pounds of payload I think you'll be happiest near 2k loaded pin weight for a 5th wheel RV. That means find something closer to 1500 pounds dry. Those 5ers have large outside storage that get filled up. Anything in front of the axles increase pin weight.

[spud1957]

gmcsmoke wrote:
assuming a 13k f'ver with a pin at 20% is 2600, 36 gallons of diesel is 288 pounds leaving you 74 pounds of payload. But don't forget to add the hitch, 200 pounds, you, your woman and anything else you put in the truck.

this is all assuming the door sticker is right, I've seen it they've been off as much as 500 pounds.

find a smaller trailer or more truck

Just to clear it up. The capacity sticker takes into account a full tank of fuel and all fluids. The sticker says "occupants and cargo". Says nothing about fuel. In this example the OP has an add'l 288 pounds of payload.

This is taken for the NHTSA document ruling:

Steps for Determining Correct Load Limit

1) Locate the statement "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed XXX kg or XXX pounds" on your vehicle's placard.
2) Determine the combined weight of the driver and passengers that will be riding in your vehicle.
3) Subtract the combined weight of the driver and passengers from XXX kilograms or XXX pounds.
4) The resulting figure equals the available amount of cargo and luggage load capacity. For example, if the "XXX" amount equals 1400 lbs. and there will be five - 150 lb passengers in your vehicle, the amount of available cargo and luggage load capacity is 650 lbs. (1400 - 750 (5 x 150) = 650 lbs.)
5) Determine the combined weight of luggage and cargo being loaded on the vehicle. That weight may not safely exceed the available cargo and luggage load capacity calculated in Step 4.
6) If your vehicle will be towing a trailer, load from your trailer will be transferred to your vehicle. Consult this manual to determine how this may reduce the available cargo and luggage load capacity of your vehicle."

[gmcsmoke]

assuming a 13k f'ver with a pin at 20% is 2600, 36 gallons of diesel is 288 pounds leaving you 74 pounds of payload. But don't forget to add the hitch, 200 pounds, you, your woman and anything else you put in the truck.

this is all assuming the door sticker is right, I've seen it they've been off as much as 500 pounds.

find a smaller trailer or more truck