Hondavalk wrote:
otrfun wrote:
With all due respect to everybody who replied to the OP's inquiry, maybe I missed it, but not one person addressed the critical issue at play here---payload/tongue weight.
Why is everybody addressing the weight of their TT?? Many Tundras are rated to tow over 10,000 lbs. Tow weight is a non-issue.
I think you did miss several post that did talk about payload. Also people are bring up trailer weights for two reasons. First trailer weight tells what tongue weight you should have adding to the payload figures and most were comparing their real life towing experience with the OPs desire.
Ok, "payload" was mentioned. Let me rephrase. I don't believe anyone mentioned specific "realworld tongue weights" in conjunction with "remaining" payload.
To restate, in the context of this thread, tow weight is irrelevant. Everybody is addressing tow weights well within the Tundra's capability.
In addition, using the 10-15 percent of tow weight rule to arrive at an ideal tongue weight is a good first step. However, all by itself is not effective unless one takes the 2nd step to verify their realworld tongue weight (i.e., talk is cheap---a CAT scale ticket costs $10).
As for "real life tow experiences", IMO they carry very little weight without (again) knowing the realworld tongue weight for any given experience. Why? Because an overloaded rear axle does not typically groan/moan, howl, or warn you of an impending failure. It goes quietly about its job until failure. Knowing ones realworld tongue weight is a very effective piece of information that can be used to reduce ones chance of axle failure. Like I've said a number of times---tongue weight is not static for any given rig. I had a different CAT scale ticket for all of my load configurations when I had my Tundra. Why? Because it was very easy to go over the maximum payload with my Tundra. Again, as a reminder, my toy hauler only weighed ~7000 lbs fully loaded (~4800 lbs. empty). Empty with no gear, toys, generator, or water in the "forward" tanks, tongue weight would drop to 800 lbs. Loaded with lots of gear in the front, some water in the "forward" tanks, toys, and a generator, tongue weight would easily soar to 1200-1300 lbs.--easily exceeding the maximum payload of my Tundra when passengers and gear (in the truck) were also factored in.
Just trying to offer up a different perspective for those that that might find it helpful or useful. If realworld tongue weight doesn't concern or interest you, then by all means feel free to disregard everything I've said.
