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wacojim
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Is anyone using chips in new diesels.
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Bedlam
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Regardless of what they may say, they have to honor the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. This is why you must have the knowledge of what you are changing if you want to keep warranty coverage. Obviously pushing more fuel or changing injection intervals has effects throughout your power train, so you need to be prepared to discern between the OEM, tuner and installer warranties if something goes wrong.

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Searching_Ut
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Explorer
When there was a significant benefit to it, chipping and tuning gas engines was popular. As the factory performance improved over the years the benefits of aftermarket tuners decreased to where you don't seem much of a market for it anymore. Diesels used to be real sleepers with a lot to be gained from aftermarket tunes, even more so than gas engines. Seems the factory is doing much better now so the potential improvements probably don't outweigh the downside for most. I think we're about to the point where tuners are a thing of the past. If not for market reason, OBDIII will probably make them impossible to use without being reported.
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FireGuard
Explorer II
Explorer II
I did a lot of mods on my 03 Cummins and it helped in all aspects.
After towing my TH this week with my 16, I have no desire to add anything.
These new trucks are amazing. I slowed to 50 due to traffic up a 12% grade and was able to accelerate back to 60 easily. Faster if I had wanted.
My advice is leave it stock. Not worth the risk. The computers record "everything".
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Adam_H
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Bedlam wrote:


Your warranty is not voided using a tuner unless the fault/failure can be traced back to a change created by the tuner. If you are willing to go down this path, you need a good understanding of what you are changing so you can either fix things yourself or be able to have an intelligent conversation with the person that will be working on your modified vehicle.


Not true: the Ford warranty and policy manual says: Any modification to the vehicle after it leaves the plant will void the warranty.
I'm sure if you did a headlight upgrade it wouldn't void it but theoretically it can. I saw several warranties voided completely from chips and tunes, nitrous and other things. A few of those went to court and the manufacturer won every time.
Good luck with your decision.

Adam
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downtheroad
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New diesels are absolute BEASTS..bone stock.
Leave it alone and get on down the road.
The only thing you will accomplish is ...trouble and grief.
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blackeyed1
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Explorer
The diesel repair shop I use, also does performance work. I couldn't believe how many newer diesels he's taking in and doing the deletes and tuning them. I guess these guys have enough money to not worry about warranties and repairs.

DutchmenSport
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Explorer
$56,000 for my truck. No way!

Old-Biscuit
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Explorer III
I have a 2007 8000# truck with a 5.9L CTD 325/HP & 610/ft.lbs torque towing a 14,000# 13'4" tall 34' long 5vr that holds 62 Mph in cruise control on a 6% grade getting 11 MPG.

No I am not running a tuner.......don't need to.
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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Bedlam
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I see enthusiasts still running tunes on their engines with the understanding that they will have more repairs and shorter engine life, but most people looking for reliability and longevity leave theirs stock.

Your warranty is not voided using a tuner unless the fault/failure can be traced back to a change created by the tuner. If you are willing to go down this path, you need a good understanding of what you are changing so you can either fix things yourself or be able to have an intelligent conversation with the person that will be working on your modified vehicle.

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Trackrig
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Explorer II
Having chipped older diesels, I can't imagine why you want to do a newer one unless you're just out dragging with the kids at the stop lights.

Bill
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mtofell1
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Explorer
From being somewhat of an internet truck/RV forum junkie I've noticed a HUGE drop off of chip use in these newer trucks. It's probably both the trace-ability of the newer trucks as well as the new ones have so much power that why bother?

The only folks I really see chipping are trust fund kids with more money than they know what to do with so they don't care about the warranty.

KD4UPL
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Explorer
NO.
In my opinion you're crazy to even think about it. 400 HP and 800 pound feet, come on, who needs more. Why void the warranty on a $50,000 truck?

NC_Hauler
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I prefer Pringles over chips:B.......couldn't help myself....
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agesilaus
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How many have had them long enough to be out of warranty? Using one instantly voids your warranty and the new computerized trucks know when one is installed and log that fact where it can't be deleted.
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