Cleanup of 5th wheel accident in California

[GordonThree]

Any details on what happened here?

https://youtu.be/DOnxT1S4Irw

[Me_Again]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I have been wintering in then Coachella Valley since 2005. Over that time the amount of 250/2500 lifted trucks with aftermarket tires and wheels have increased. Over the years staying at the Thousand trails in Palm Desert it's been entertaining watching them go by with their headlights pointing to the sky and bouncing down the highway. They are heading to the Desert from the general LA area and back every weekend. I have seen plenty of them lying on their side.

They tow "JUST FINE" until they don't!

The truck in the Vid was out on their maiden voyage with new truck and RV, Truck was a F250 with about 4" lift along with aftermarket tires of an unknown load range, air bags and aftermarket wheels that may or may not meet the load capacity of the OE wheels.

I really don't care what was the cause of the accident was the RV was too much for the truck plain and simple.

So newbies and anyone with an open mind please watch the vid!!!

Looked to me like the left rear wheel failed with the spokes broken. The truck was hit in the right rear and that caused the left rear wheel to fail, then that most likely contributed to the pickup rolling over on the drivers side.

[CaptnJohn]

I don't think you have to be an expert to know when a TV is that far overloaded in payload alone. One day hopefully RVs will be required to be safety inspected / weighed with the TV.

[ShinerBock]

hotpepperkid wrote:


Yep another self proclaimed expert

Well that and he is one of those "whatever I have is the best and if I don't have then it sucks" kind of guys.

[hotpepperkid]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I have been wintering in then Coachella Valley since 2005. Over that time the amount of 250/2500 lifted trucks with aftermarket tires and wheels have increased. Over the years staying at the Thousand trails in Palm Desert it's been entertaining watching them go by with their headlights pointing to the sky and bouncing down the highway. They are heading to the Desert from the general LA area and back every weekend. I have seen plenty of them lying on their side.

They tow "JUST FINE" until they don't!

The truck in the Vid was out on their maiden voyage with new truck and RV, Truck was a F250 with about 4" lift along with aftermarket tires of an unknown load range, air bags and aftermarket wheels that may or may not meet the load capacity of the OE wheels.

I really don't care what was the cause of the accident was the RV was too much for the truck plain and simple.

So newbies and anyone with an open mind please watch the vid!!!

Yep another self proclaimed expert

[Groover]

I am thinking that in most situations two seconds should have been plenty of time to stop from 40mph. I am wondering if his trailer brakes were working properly. I notice that the trailer looks to be very new. I recently bought a heavy trailer and found the brakes to be nearly useless as I left the lot. I eventually found out that the brakes need to be burnished in. I wonder how many 5th wheel campers get their brakes burnished in before hitting the open road. How many owners are even aware that it needs to be done?

[Groover]

dodge guy wrote:
I like the lights that have the countdown for the cross wallk. I can see how much time is left as I approach the light. Haven’t run into a 2 second yellow light, but I know they’re out there!

I am seeing more and more round-abouts when I travel. One of those may have prevented this accident. The proponents do claim that round-abouts have been shown to be safer. Just thinking about your comment though, I have no idea how they handle cross walks.

[CaptnJohn]

There is a saying about what cannot be fixed ~~~ that leads to trucks like this that cannot be fixed either.

[Cummins12V98]

I have been wintering in then Coachella Valley since 2005. Over that time the amount of 250/2500 lifted trucks with aftermarket tires and wheels have increased. Over the years staying at the Thousand trails in Palm Desert it's been entertaining watching them go by with their headlights pointing to the sky and bouncing down the highway. They are heading to the Desert from the general LA area and back every weekend. I have seen plenty of them lying on their side.

They tow "JUST FINE" until they don't!

The truck in the Vid was out on their maiden voyage with new truck and RV, Truck was a F250 with about 4" lift along with aftermarket tires of an unknown load range, air bags and aftermarket wheels that may or may not meet the load capacity of the OE wheels.

I really don't care what was the cause of the accident was the RV was too much for the truck plain and simple.

So newbies and anyone with an open mind please watch the vid!!!

[cbshoestring]

smurfs_of_war wrote:


You mean they DON'T pick up and weigh each and every itty bitty piece and weigh it to compare it to your yellow door sticker???

First LEO on scene gathered the pieces, then couldn't figure out how to open driver's door to read sticker.

[spoon059]

smurfs_of_war wrote:
You mean they DON'T pick up and weigh each and every itty bitty piece and weigh it to compare it to your yellow door sticker???

Ha ha... shhhhhhhhh... don't let the weight police know!

[smurfs_of_war]

PDX.Zs wrote:
Having written and read hundreds of these stupid reports, I can assure you all it will be a lot less interesting / informative that thought.

No CSI, no crash reconstruction, no 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows.

Just a couple boxes checked and info taken.

Get it in and get it out...

This sort of thing barely registers for LE. Whichever agency responded took less time processing and thinking about this incident than it took to read this thread.

You mean they DON'T pick up and weigh each and every itty bitty piece and weigh it to compare it to your yellow door sticker???

[GordonThree]

PDX.Zs wrote:
Having written and read hundreds of these stupid reports, I can assure you all it will be a lot less interesting / informative that thought.

No CSI, no crash reconstruction, no 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows.

Just a couple boxes checked and info taken.

Get it in and get it out...

This sort of thing barely registers for LE. Whichever agency responded took less time processing and thinking about this incident than it took to read this thread.

Good point, they don't do much here unless it's a fatality or severe injury.

[PDX_Zs]

Having written and read hundreds of these stupid reports, I can assure you all it will be a lot less interesting / informative that thought.

No CSI, no crash reconstruction, no 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows.

Just a couple boxes checked and info taken.

Get it in and get it out...

This sort of thing barely registers for LE. Whichever agency responded took less time processing and thinking about this incident than it took to read this thread.

[GWolfe]

GordonThree wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

hotpepperkid wrote:
I love it how all of a sudden everyone becomes an expert

We are all experts at making assumptions without all the facts! It would be interesting to have access to the LEO accident reports on this!

Doesn't look like California makes crash reports public. The form CHP 190 requires the requesting party be somehow involved.

Could try FOIA and ask for a redacted copy?

Oh I think we all are involved now. 😉

[GordonThree]

rhagfo wrote:

hotpepperkid wrote:
I love it how all of a sudden everyone becomes an expert

We are all experts at making assumptions without all the facts! It would be interesting to have access to the LEO accident reports on this!

Doesn't look like California makes crash reports public. The form CHP 190 requires the requesting party be somehow involved.

Could try FOIA and ask for a redacted copy?