Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[Hannibal]

Hitch Itch wrote:
I bought my first 2018 duramax, always pulled our 13k 5er with a 6.0 gasser, no real issues other then it was always at about 3k rpm now with the duramax its always around 1800-2000rpm. I am Very dissapointed in the mpg tho, the gasser would always get 7mpg and the duramax only gets 9 mpg, I was expecting far more then a 2 mpg gain for the additional $10k I spent

That was my experience as well with my four Cummins powered 2500 Rams and then going to a 5.7L Hemi powered 2500HD Ram rowing the same 5th wheel. 30% higher rpm and 2 mpg less with the Hemi. Where the diesel did much better was around town on my service route. The Cummins Rams gave 18.5~mpg where the Hemi Ram gave 12-14~mpg.

[carl2591]

I RARELY go over 65 MPH... (especially pulling a 8K RV) at 75 you are going to fast pulling a SOB.. (some other brand).. its an airstream thing.. SLOW down and the MPG will go back to 13 or so.. not a big need to go so fast the place will be there or leave earlier. 🙂 peace out brother..

happy memorial day..

Hitch Itch wrote:
I feather the pedal the best i can @75mph

[Hitch_Itch]

I feather the pedal the best i can @75mph

[carl2591]

guess a lot depends on your foot, especially the thin pedal where as if you try to be the first guy up the hill, the big badass diesel) vs just getting in the power zone and let it ride that can affect the MPG..

I have a '03 7.3 with 60 HP tow tune on east coast average 13 MPG pulling a 30 ft airstream. only big hills around here are on Hwy 421 near boone, black mtn on I-40, and fancy gap up I-77. I can pull them in 3rd, (4 speed with OD) keeping up with 55 mph traffice.. running 2K rpm more or less. try less speed and lower gear. 🙂

Hitch Itch wrote:
I bought my first 2018 duramax, always pulled our 13k 5er with a 6.0 gasser, no real issues other then it was always at about 3k rpm now with the duramax its always around 1800-2000rpm. I am Very dissapointed in the mpg tho, the gasser would always get 7mpg and the duramax only gets 9 mpg, I was expecting far more then a 2 mpg gain for the additional $10k I spent

[Hitch_Itch]

I bought my first 2018 duramax, always pulled our 13k 5er with a 6.0 gasser, no real issues other then it was always at about 3k rpm now with the duramax its always around 1800-2000rpm. I am Very dissapointed in the mpg tho, the gasser would always get 7mpg and the duramax only gets 9 mpg, I was expecting far more then a 2 mpg gain for the additional $10k I spent

[97FLHTCUI]

For us we pull our 13000 lb 5th wheel with a 2011 f250 6.2L gasser with 3:73 locker and yes we are overloaded by 1000lb. We have 150000 on the truck now and she has performed beautifully. So we ordered a 2019 f350 6.2l with a 4:30 locker. We full time so this will get us up the mountains a little easier.

[carl2591]

$4.09 for gas... WOW.. here in eastern NC, Raleigh area, gas is 2.59 diesel 2.95.. glad diesel is a bit cheaper there.. 🙂

transferred wrote:

Hannibal wrote:
What station and where so others in your area might benefit as well?

City of Pasadena, the Mobil at the corner of Foothill and Sierra Madre just off the 210 freeway is one, but there are too many to list in LA County. $4.09 currently which is less than all gas.

[rhagfo]

Big1 wrote:
I went diesel I live in the PNW and drive often no other reason and besides I wanted one.

Well bought for ease of towing, and currently in the greater Portland area diesel is about 10 cents a gallon LESS than Gas.

[Big1]

I went diesel I live in the PNW and drive often no other reason and besides I wanted one.

[transferred]

Hannibal wrote:
What station and where so others in your area might benefit as well?

City of Pasadena, the Mobil at the corner of Foothill and Sierra Madre just off the 210 freeway is one, but there are too many to list in LA County. $4.09 currently which is less than all gas.

[Hannibal]

What station and where so others in your area might benefit as well?

[transferred]

BigToe wrote:
At some fuel stations in California, diesel has ticked up to $1.00 (99 cents) per gallon higher than 87 octane regular unleaded gas. (Spring 2019)

"Some" being the operative word. Maybe it's different in NorCal, but if you know where to look, diesel is priced +/- 20 cents of 87 across Southern California from he dozens of stations I drive past daily. Where I fill up weekly it's 10 cents less, for instance.

Now, there's always the one scumbag that charges it a buck more....but then that goes for unscrupulous gas stations that do the same with 87/89/91 to compared to others.

[carl2591]

in my area the difference is between .70 and .90 cent gallon.. I have a '03 7.3 and if fuel stays this far apart in 4-5 yrs when we are thinking about selling/trading the ford in we might be looking at gas over diesel.

Thus far not big expense on the engine but know the trans if weak point of the ford 7.3 with the 4R100 trans.. (too bad the ford 6.0L engine is such a dude as the 5R110 trans was a beast. )

BigToe wrote:
At some fuel stations in California, diesel has ticked up to $1.00 (99 cents) per gallon higher than 87 octane regular unleaded gas. (Spring 2019)

[BigToe]

At some fuel stations in California, diesel has ticked up to $1.00 (99 cents) per gallon higher than 87 octane regular unleaded gas. (Spring 2019)

[Copperhead]

GM is supposedly doing a 6.6L gasser in the 2020 2500/3500 series. 400 hp / 450 torque. Direct injection. Some aspects I don't like about it so I will not consider it anytime soon. But that is my general consensus regarding just about everything that is being made now, irregardless of OEM brand. Nothing really motivates me to to even take a look, let alone consider buying. Kind of a good thing in a way.