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ENTRY LEVEL?

djcjc
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I just read it again about how some trailers are considered entry level trailers by the elite of campers. I have a Jayco Jay Flight 29QBH this trailer has the layout we wanted the water and holding tank capacities we like but yet here is considered entry level. I has been to Florida ,Tn twice,Indy,& numerous trips here around IL and now that I am retired it is going to get pulled around alot more and many trips far frome home ( Tn in march Deadwood in June) I will not apologize to other in campgrounds for my aluminum sided entry level trailer I will just enjoy our trips and have fun. If this is entry level I guess it is where I belong I am not going live in it 24 - 7.
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2112
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Francesca Knowles wrote:
djcjc wrote:
I just read it again about how some trailers are considered entry level trailers by the elite of campers.

I think you mean "elitISTs". The difference being that "elitists" use such terminology because they can really only aspire to be "elite"- talking down to others is how they keep their hopes up.

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Pay no attention to them- it's really all just jealousy. They're jealous of the truly "elite" and at the same time jealous of those like you that have no such pretensions and are the happier for it...

You nailed it. Sad actually.
2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost SuperCab Max Tow, 2084# Payload, 11,300# Tow,
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JiminDenver
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Explorer II
We love our entry level, light weight trailer. It does everything we need it too for much less money and weight. It keeps us warm and dry even though we take it over the roughest of trails getting to those places the bigger rigs wont fit. We also haven't had one issue in three years even though though we are usually in fairly extreme weather.

I was taught young to meet my needs from the ground up and stop there. There are lots of things that are nice to have but if you don't need them, they are usually wasted. I don't need to impress anyone.
2011 GulfStream Amerilite 25BH
2003 Ford Expedition with 435w tilting portable/ TS-MPPT-45
750w solar , TS-MPPT-60 on the trailer
675 Ah bank, Trip-lite 1250fc inverter
Sportsman 2200w inverter generator

jaycocreek
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Explorer II
Entry level.. Really...

If your pickup or tow vehicle is not atleast a 2014.. Then it is an entry level without the newest updates.... If your travel trailer/pickup camper/fifth wheel or motorhome is not atleast a 2014.. then again it is an entry level rig.

Come on. โ€ฆLabeling should be above us at our ages.. Leave that to the kids not the adults.

Just what exactly is an entry level rv.. Inexpensive/short/light/only two tires/only one battery/doesn't need a one ton to pull it/used/tin roof or what is it that makes it entry level.....

It certainly isn't a Nuwa built sticks and tin fiver.
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500ah Lifep04

WoodGlue
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SolidAxleDurango wrote:
WoodGlue wrote:
...Wearing an Izod shirt or a JCPenney brand shirt accomplishes the exact same thing!..


I buy all my clothes at Walmart

Isn't anything wrong with that!! They all accomplish they same thing - being clothed.

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
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CampingN_C_
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The Jay Flight that I'm looking at can be ordered with fiberglass sides for an extra $1,000. I guess it would make it "look" less entry level but it'll still be the same camper either way. Smooth sides doesn't always equal exceptional build quality.
The Skyline Nomad I just sold was 14 years old. Absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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2018 Jayco Talon 413T
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SolidAxleDurang
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WoodGlue wrote:
...Wearing an Izod shirt or a JCPenney brand shirt accomplishes the exact same thing!..


I buy all my clothes at Walmart
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Dog_Folks
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Entry level, basic level, tent, or most expensive class A:

The view out the window is the same.
Our Rig:
2005 Dodge 3500 - Dually- Cummins
2006 Outback 27 RSDS

We also have with us two rescue dogs. A Chihuahua mix & a Catahoula mix.

"I did not get to this advanced age because I am stupid."

Full time since June 2006

loulou57
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When we started looking we had no idea what we wanted..class A or a pop up :h

Even though we had camped in various RV's over the years, we didn't know much. :@

Here is a laugh.. When one dealer said to us, you don't want that, it is an entry level. I said, oh yes we do. That will be so much easier to climb into on days my hips and knees are bad. I thought he mean't that the entry was level to the ground ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

We looked at many TT and found that most "Entry Level" were as well built as the higher priced units. It is amazing what they charge for upgrades you can do yourself for so little. It is how the unit is constructed what counts, not the quality of the 4 yards of material used or the little bit of wood trim.

Choose the unit that suits you. If someone judges you by how thick he thinks your wallet is, you don't need him.

JBarca
Nomad II
Nomad II
I also keep hearing that wood frame and aluminum siding is, cheap and entry level. Sorry, that is not a true statement.

Our Sunline Solaris is a high quality camper with high quality appliances and features throughout. Their 3 year warranty backed it up. Sunline offered the same exact quality build camper in a hard sided fiberglass or aluminum sided with Krystal coat on it. It was an option, not a quality shift. Unfortunately Sunline was one of the 1st to go under in Nov 2006 with the down turn in the economy. That is another sad story in itself, where we lost one of the quality camper manufactures of travel trailers, 5th wheels and truck campers.

As to wood verses aluminum, see where what NuWa says about it. http://www.nuwa.com/faqs/questions/11/ NuWa like Arctic Fox still recognize wood as a material of choice when used correctly as all aluminum framing is not the right way to build quality. http://www.northwoodmfg.com/images/rsync/brochures/Arctic_Fox_Brochure.pdf See page 5.

As far as entry level, I started with a back pack and 50# in it. That is how I entered camping. I considered myself on top of the world going to places located in God's country in the wilderness with hiking stick or a paddle in my hand. We now haul 10,000# of camper and "stuff" and still go camping in God's country just the trail is little more paved. You will never find one stitch of trash or messed up campsite where we have camped due to respect for nature and my fellow camper. As far as the neighbor next to me, they can be in a 1960 VW camper bus with a peace sign on it or triple slide tag axle diesel pusher and I'll invite them over for campfire. How ever you entered camping, good for you. The world would be a better place if we all went camping and respected each other like we should.

Camp on!
2005 Ford F350 Super Duty, 4x4; 6.8L V10 with 4.10 RA, 21,000 GCWR, 11,000 GVWR, upgraded 2 1/2" Towbeast Receiver. Hitched with a 1,700# Reese HP WD, HP Dual Cam to a 2004 Sunline Solaris T310R travel trailer.

Empty_Nest__Soo
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I know our Pioneer is considered an "entry level" TT. Mostly, it is a basic no-nonsense model. I can live with that.

Aluminum siding, rubber roof. Keeps us dry. Hasn't leaked yet in 11 years.

It didn't come with a TV, although I did have to remove a TV shelf in the bedroom. The TV shelf in the kitchen is used for food storage. We don't want no stinkin' TV while camping.

Try as I may, I cannot find a new TT that has nearly as much storage in the bedroom as our little entry level model. Ours has more capacity in the water tanks compared to most. For our kind of camping, these things are important.

We don't need marble or Corian countertops when camping. Heck, we've not even one time used the microwave that came with our camper, except as a bread box. I think we've only camped once at a place that had hookups.

Nothing wrong with no-nonsense TT's, whatever label you want to put on them.

Wayne
Wayne & Michelle

1997 Safari Sahara 3540

5rvers
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Explorer
Last year we spent many nights in our entry level Jayco and 3 nights in the Sheraton downtown Seattle. I prefer my Jayco :B

Goldstalker
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Maybe they should be called base models like vehicles then. Would it make you feel better if someone asked you, how you are enjoying your base model trailer?,
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dspencer
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colliehauler wrote:
If your offended by entry level what about motels? Is a 5 star the same as a 1 star? How about car batteries they rate them by Month's or good better best or are they being snobs. All it is is a way to compare one model with another nothing more.


I don't know about you colliehauler but I very seldom look at how many stars a hotel has, :h even if I did I wouldn't be able to count too 5 without a lot of effort. :B

colliehauler
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If your offended by entry level what about motels? Is a 5 star the same as a 1 star? How about car batteries they rate them by Month's or good better best or are they being snobs. All it is is a way to compare one model with another nothing more.

dspencer
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Explorer
You are welcome to camp next to me in my entry level Gray Wolf 26BH anytime! Actually I've only run into that type of person one time. The DW and I were on our way to southern Texas about 6 years back when we had just got our new at that time 23 ft. Hybrid and we stopped overnight in Dallas in a private campground. We pulled in about 4:00 that afternoon and was on the road by 7:00a.m.

When we were setting up this lady who was parked next to our site in a rather high dollar diesel pusher came over and ask us if we were really going to park that kind of trailer next to there motor home. Shall we say she was less than pleased with us and our camper. I just smiled at her and went about my business. We found out later she actually went to the manager and ask if they could move us away from there site. She was informed by management that wouldn't happen. ๐Ÿ™‚