Nov-16-2017 06:58 PM
Nov-18-2017 08:49 AM
Nov-18-2017 08:46 AM
Nov-18-2017 06:49 AM
rhagfo wrote:spud1957 wrote:
The info demiles provided is correct. Read Ford's 2017 F150 Towing Guide notes on page 3 for 5th wheel towing;
1.Calculated with SAE J2807 method
Note: Trailer king pin load weight should be 15% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer king pin load weight and weight of passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue load weight and weight of passengers and cargo cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label
F150 Towing Guide
Yep! Another Ford slide of hand, first is was stripper base trucks less spare tire and rear bumpe, now you can carry/tow an 11,700# 5er, BUT you need to keep the pin weight to 15% of the 11,700# or 1,755#. Now as a 5er tower, towing a 5er with ONLY 15% pin weight is going to be one rough ride, it will chuck like crazy! That and to get to 15% on almost all 5ers you would need to load heavy behind the axles, this could make for an ill handling 5er.
No that is not the total available payload of that F150, BUT they know there are other things that eat payload, passengers, fuel, hitch, and stuff!
Now that 11,700# 5er with a realistic 20% to 22% that would be 2,340# to 2,574# pin!
Nov-18-2017 05:25 AM
Nov-18-2017 04:45 AM
spud1957 wrote:
The info demiles provided is correct. Read Ford's 2017 F150 Towing Guide notes on page 3 for 5th wheel towing;
1.Calculated with SAE J2807 method
Note: Trailer king pin load weight should be 15% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer king pin load weight and weight of passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue load weight and weight of passengers and cargo cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label
F150 Towing Guide
Nov-18-2017 04:28 AM
Nov-18-2017 04:03 AM
Nov-17-2017 08:43 PM
demiles wrote:mhamershock wrote:troubledwaters wrote:demiles wrote:You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...
LOL. My BS meter went off with this claim too.
OP - I have a 2018 F150 HDPP 3.5EB. Mine's a SCREW Lariat 6.5 box with 2400 lb payload. As set up with an ARE cap, I have 2000 lbs left on the 4800 RAWR. You can get over 3000 lb payload with the right Regular Cab config but you will have to custom order like I did. Done right, it should easily handle an 1800 lb pin. I wouldn't go that high on my config but it can be done. And the 3.5EB with 470 ft lb of torque is a fine motor.
Mike
Call it whatever you want but it’s no claim on my part, it came right from Ford. First from a Ford commercial truck salesman then a phone call to Ford. Your right they don’t come right out and say what the max pin weight is, which is the reason I asked in the first place. If you check any other manufacturers ratings you will find that the max pin weight is 15% of the 5th wheel TWR.
Nov-17-2017 07:36 PM
mhamershock wrote:troubledwaters wrote:demiles wrote:You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...
LOL. My BS meter went off with this claim too.
OP - I have a 2018 F150 HDPP 3.5EB. Mine's a SCREW Lariat 6.5 box with 2400 lb payload. As set up with an ARE cap, I have 2000 lbs left on the 4800 RAWR. You can get over 3000 lb payload with the right Regular Cab config but you will have to custom order like I did. Done right, it should easily handle an 1800 lb pin. I wouldn't go that high on my config but it can be done. And the 3.5EB with 470 ft lb of torque is a fine motor.
Mike
Nov-17-2017 06:06 PM
falconbrother wrote:
There's more than a few F-150s in the campgrounds pulling 5'ers.
Nov-17-2017 05:15 PM
Nov-17-2017 03:34 PM
kw/00 wrote:
Before this gets all crazy lol... What fifth wheel are you planning to pull and what are the specs? For all we know the OP may be downsizing to a smaller fifth wheel or the truck has become to much to keep up with repair and money wise. Some smaller fifth wheels do well with 1/2 ton trucks. Power wise I don't think it would be a huge gap with the ecoboost. Funny because the eco 3.5 is putting out very close on what his 03 diesel is.. anyway let us know and I think it will be easier for us to help out.
Nov-17-2017 03:15 PM
Nov-17-2017 02:45 PM
Nov-17-2017 01:47 PM
troubledwaters wrote:demiles wrote:You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...