F250 6.2L vs. 6.7L TD

[Chase_WV]

Currently towing a Keystone 31RBDS 7800dry or about 9000 loaded with a 2011 Nissan Armada. (Let the comments begin)

But trying to decide on a 2012 F250 Lariat 6.2L nicely equipped (tow capacity 12K) for $37K or a 2015 F250 with a 6.7L TD bare bones SLT (Tow capacity 14K) for $42K. Both have about 20K miles on them.

My head is spinning trying to decide which is the better way to go.

[love2rvcamp]

The price of diesel versus gas was considered. The decision to go gas for me and my family was:

Maintenance and repair -not so much cost but we have a family member that works on our vehicles and he doesn't work on diesels
Daily driver - I just like the feel of driving the gas as a daily driving vehicle
Sound - this may sound funny but I have a son that is on the autism spectrum and the hum of the diasel bothered him a whole lot. He hears pitches that most of us don't. So that was the biggest factor.

I have read posts on here from people that have gone west with gas and had an enjoyable experience. I can't comment on that yet as we have not made it that far yet. Sure would like to one day.

Each person should get what they can afford and that they would be happy with.

[RedRocket204]

carl2591 wrote:
Towing out west I bet the gas guys wish they had forced induction at least for the day.

Fixed that for ya.

[carl2591]

6.2L is a nice well proven engine for sure.. I would guess if diesel was 20 cents cheaper than RUL gas then the conversation would be different.

Not sure where the break even number is but recently the difference, in NC, has been low as .20 and high as .40 between diesel and RUL gas.

The cost of the engine especially new is hard to overcome for a lot of folks no doubt. One thing i see stated is cost of maintenance being higher on diesel but that is not all that big a factor.

yes you use more oil, 15 vs 6 qts but a diesel can go 8-10k or more miles before needing a change. Towing, a diesel will get better MPG and the rotation on the engine is less as they top out at 3200 RPM and most gassers need at least 3500 or more RPM to stay in the power band.

Towing out west I bet the gas guys wish there had a diesel at least for the day..

the right choice is the one you make with good due diligence before the buy.

love2rvcamp wrote:
I have a 6.2 and tow our trailer which is a little lighter than yours. We love the towing experience and the overall truck. It is a lariat so I got all the bells and whistles. I use it as my daily driving vehicle.

I have a little over 3000 lbs of payload which is more than I need now and even for anything I could possibly want to upgrade to.

Get the one you will be happy with.

Mike

[love2rvcamp]

I have a 6.2 and tow our trailer which is a little lighter than yours. We love the towing experience and the overall truck. It is a lariat so I got all the bells and whistles. I use it as my daily driving vehicle.

I have a little over 3000 lbs of payload which is more than I need now and even for anything I could possibly want to upgrade to.

Get the one you will be happy with.

Mike

[Dave_H_M]

I scan through posts time and time again about resale. I do not give a flip about resale. :B A lot of those statements seem to be arbitrary at best.

My 6.2 is with me for the long haul.

It is what I needed and has worked out well.

I am not knocking the diesels. All three seem to be very good ones now.

That should get some folks beating on their tom toms. :W

[rhagfo]

jerem0621 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:


Diesels hold more value than gassers for a while, but at a point the value (actual price people are willing to pay) has more to do with condition and price...if I have $5500 to spend on a truck... Would I buy a rusty 96 PSD or an immaculate V10 Superduty...for the same money...my experience...I bought the 99 V10.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Nothing like an apples to Oranges comparison!:S

Like condition for like condition, the diesel will hold its value far better than a gas TV.
Why not compare a rust bucket gasser to a prestige diesel, not even close. Diesel will hold that value even with higher mileage!

I think the point you made is diesels do hold better value! $5,500 won't get much more than a rust bucket diesel, the engine is worth that much!

Russ that was the point. If you have a budget of $5500.00.. which I did have at the time. That was ALL I could spend on a TV. Diesels I could afford were either not a crew cab or worn out rust buckets. Found a 99 V10 for the same money that was not a bucket and bought it. A PSD in the same condition would have been 10 grand more.

So for me.. $5500.00 was the equalizer... the apple that I had to work with..

Sorry to offend or cause confusion.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Well that said you did good on the V10 as they tend to hold their value also.

[jerem0621]

rhagfo wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:


Diesels hold more value than gassers for a while, but at a point the value (actual price people are willing to pay) has more to do with condition and price...if I have $5500 to spend on a truck... Would I buy a rusty 96 PSD or an immaculate V10 Superduty...for the same money...my experience...I bought the 99 V10.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Nothing like an apples to Oranges comparison!:S

Like condition for like condition, the diesel will hold its value far better than a gas TV.
Why not compare a rust bucket gasser to a prestige diesel, not even close. Diesel will hold that value even with higher mileage!

I think the point you made is diesels do hold better value! $5,500 won't get much more than a rust bucket diesel, the engine is worth that much!

Russ that was the point. If you have a budget of $5500.00.. which I did have at the time. That was ALL I could spend on a TV. Diesels I could afford were either not a crew cab or worn out rust buckets. Found a 99 V10 for the same money that was not a bucket and bought it. A PSD in the same condition would have been 10 grand more.

So for me.. $5500.00 was the equalizer... the apple that I had to work with..

Sorry to offend or cause confusion.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[carl2591]

I know right.. rust bucket to immaculate. Now if you compare a immaculate PSD to a immaculate V-10 the PSD wins hands down. Better power, better MPG, longer life, just badder all the way around..

Plus with some minor mods you can get more HP and torque to pass the V-10 screaming it brains out trying to keep up with the PSD on the pull from Silverthorne to Ike Tunnel on I-70 in CO outside of Denver.

Just watch some videos on fastlanetrucking.com

rhagfo wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:


Diesels hold more value than gassers for a while, but at a point the value (actual price people are willing to pay) has more to do with condition and price...if I have $5500 to spend on a truck... Would I buy a rusty 96 PSD or an immaculate V10 Superduty...for the same money...my experience...I bought the 99 V10.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Nothing like an apples to Oranges comparison!:S

Like condition for like condition, the diesel will hold its value far better than a gas TV.
Why not compare a rust bucket gasser to a prestige diesel, not even close. Diesel will hold that value even with higher mileage!

I think the point you made is diesels do hold better value! $5,500 won't get much more than a rust bucket diesel, the engine is worth that much!

[rhagfo]

jerem0621 wrote:


Diesels hold more value than gassers for a while, but at a point the value (actual price people are willing to pay) has more to do with condition and price...if I have $5500 to spend on a truck... Would I buy a rusty 96 PSD or an immaculate V10 Superduty...for the same money...my experience...I bought the 99 V10.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Nothing like an apples to Oranges comparison!:S

Like condition for like condition, the diesel will hold its value far better than a gas TV.
Why not compare a rust bucket gasser to a prestige diesel, not even close. Diesel will hold that value even with higher mileage!

I think the point you made is diesels do hold better value! $5,500 won't get much more than a rust bucket diesel, the engine is worth that much!

[jerem0621]

crcr wrote:

Greene728 wrote:

crcr wrote:
As far as value, your decision is a complete no brainer, IMHO. Only $3K more for a truck with same miles but 3 years newer, plus it has the very expensive option of the diesel engine.

For towing, the diesel is always better, plus as someone said, the diesel gives you headroom to tow a heavier RV should you ever desire to, and trust the folks on this forum, many many of us have found ourselves moving to a heavier bigger RV even tho we did not expect to.

And the diesel resale will be much much higher down the road than a gasser 3 years older. You'd be money ahead long term to buy the diesel.

Wrong. Opinion and nothing more.

I disclosed that I was expressing an opinion in my post. Did you not see "IMHO"? If you don't know what IMHO means, Google it.
We're all expressing opinions here, that's what a forum is for.
IMHO, your opinion is wrong and mine is correct. 🙂

If I looked hard enough I could find facts to back up both points...that's the thing about data..it's all in the Interpretation. 😉

Diesels hold more value than gassers for a while, but at a point the value (actual price people are willing to pay) has more to do with condition and price...if I have $5500 to spend on a truck... Would I buy a rusty 96 PSD or an immaculate V10 Superduty...for the same money...my experience...I bought the 99 V10.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[RedRocket204]

spud1957 wrote:
The fact it was a rental

Can't believe more didn't pick up on that or at least mention it...

Buy a diesel that was previously a rental? Not me... no way, no how.

[crcr]

Greene728 wrote:

crcr wrote:
As far as value, your decision is a complete no brainer, IMHO. Only $3K more for a truck with same miles but 3 years newer, plus it has the very expensive option of the diesel engine.

For towing, the diesel is always better, plus as someone said, the diesel gives you headroom to tow a heavier RV should you ever desire to, and trust the folks on this forum, many many of us have found ourselves moving to a heavier bigger RV even tho we did not expect to.

And the diesel resale will be much much higher down the road than a gasser 3 years older. You'd be money ahead long term to buy the diesel.

Wrong. Opinion and nothing more.

I disclosed that I was expressing an opinion in my post. Did you not see "IMHO"? If you don't know what IMHO means, Google it.
We're all expressing opinions here, that's what a forum is for.
IMHO, your opinion is wrong and mine is correct. 🙂

[spud1957]

The "higher value equation" has already been established and it's $3000. Not much for a vehicle 3 years newer.

So in another 5 years, the bare bones diesel might still be worth $3000 more, might not. The fact it was a rental, not knowing how well it was maintained or driven, the $3000 add'l price could increase substantially.

Also, not a lot of people may be interested in a bare bones, contractor style XL. That will also dictate it's value.

Take a drive through a Uhaul lot. Don't see too many diesels anymore.

S

[C_Schomer]

When I had a gas station/repair garage in the early 70, I had a customer with a dump truck and he pulled a loboy with a frontend loader/backhoe. The truck had a 225 slant 6. I grew up with 50s farm trucks and dad and I added all sorts of springs, rubber blocks and tags so we could haul more... and it was legal. We are soooo lucky to have the power that any of the gassers have now! Most of these new HD P/U gassers have more power than a lot of the old OTR diesel trucks, which I also owned. Craig