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Honda eu2000i lit my 13,500btu roof air

Boatycall
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I just picked up off Craigslist a used Honda 2000-Companion model. I know this topic has come up many times before, but I honestly was shocked (no pun intended) that a single EU2000I would light my 13.5k roof air.

My previous TC, a 2012 AF came with an 11,000, and my last Honda 2000 barely even grunted starting it, no problem. I just thought a 13,5 wouldn't go.

My roof air is not the stock one, when I got my TC the previous owner ordered it without, so I had the local EC stealer put in a 13,500 Coleman.
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Lexicon7
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Boaty ::: Great post! I recently posted similar requesting assistance IDing my AC unit? 95' Lance Squire 4000 (she's old but was cheap to buy and real nice inside!) I know it's 11 or 13.5 and have been in touch with GeneratorSite.com who is the cheapest site I have found for the 2000 & 2000 Comp: My breaker panel is a bit confusing but I see the "converter" area and appreciate you pointing out turning it off...
I just may order one of these bad boys after all...

M_GO_BLUE1
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It may start it but how does it handle the cycling of the AC?

Also I can almost bet the AC is barely being run by the generator (i.e. possible low voltage situation) and continual running on low voltage may possibly lead to your AC eventually quitting...



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tuna_fisher
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we've made it as high as 5K, after that no go.
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Raften
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Let us know what happens at 3000 feet and say 90 degrees.
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2Gordons
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We've had mixed results with our 13,500 and our Honda 2000EU, probably for the reasons detailed.

Question: Do you really need a 13,500 AC unit for an average sized TC? Would an 11,000 or 11,500 (or whatever) be sufficient for the square footage involved?

Don
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Boatycall
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2oldman wrote:
egarant wrote:
How do you turn off the converter? I have looked and not seen an obvious fuse or switch.
Assuming TCs are like the rest of the RV world, it's a breaker, and sometimes it's connected in with another circuit.

You just have to switch them off until you find it. Mine was that way, so the easiest thing for me to do was find the two 120v power wires and install a switch on one of them.


Ditto - I also run an Inverter on the whole TC, so instead of always having to open the breaker panel and kill the converter breaker, I put in a SPST switch to just shut it off, right next to the Inverter remote switch.
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2oldman
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egarant wrote:
How do you turn off the converter? I have looked and not seen an obvious fuse or switch.
Assuming TCs are like the rest of the RV world, it's a breaker, and sometimes it's connected in with another circuit.

You just have to switch them off until you find it. Mine was that way, so the easiest thing for me to do was find the two 120v power wires and install a switch on one of them.
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okan-star
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naturist wrote:
Boatycall wrote:


Yea, and worth noting, I did have everything turned off/unplugged, even the converter.

Be interesting to see then on my next outing if it can fire it. I'll be heading up into the mountains, but not very high, ~3000ft level.


First of all, it is telling that you had "everything turned off, even the converter." That "everything" can make all the difference in the world sometimes.

13,500 btu Acs require almost exactly 2,000 watts to start the compressor, depending upon the make, model, and how it is wired. Whether it'll work or not also depends upon what the TRUE wattage is, that is, some Acs of a given model that takes 2,000 watts might actually require 2,050 watts, or maybe 1,950 watts. And some 2,000 watt generators might be a tad weaker or stronger than average. The consequences of the wrong pairing are obvious.

But the fact you had "everything turned off, even the converter," by itself makes a big difference. If your house battery needs charging, that converter can be sucking down 500 or 600 watts, and that will kick off the generator every time when combined with a 2,000 watt AC startup.


Worth noting not all AC `s are the same even though they are 13500btu here`sone that will run fine on a Honda, at elevation and with a converter running

egarant
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How do you turn off the converter? I have looked and not seen an obvious fuse or switch.
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naturist
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Boatycall wrote:


Yea, and worth noting, I did have everything turned off/unplugged, even the converter.

Be interesting to see then on my next outing if it can fire it. I'll be heading up into the mountains, but not very high, ~3000ft level.


First of all, it is telling that you had "everything turned off, even the converter." That "everything" can make all the difference in the world sometimes.

13,500 btu Acs require almost exactly 2,000 watts to start the compressor, depending upon the make, model, and how it is wired. Whether it'll work or not also depends upon what the TRUE wattage is, that is, some Acs of a given model that takes 2,000 watts might actually require 2,050 watts, or maybe 1,950 watts. And some 2,000 watt generators might be a tad weaker or stronger than average. The consequences of the wrong pairing are obvious.

But the fact you had "everything turned off, even the converter," by itself makes a big difference. If your house battery needs charging, that converter can be sucking down 500 or 600 watts, and that will kick off the generator every time when combined with a 2,000 watt AC startup.

Boatycall
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OpenRangePullen_Ford wrote:
Yes thats pushing it.


Yea, and worth noting, I did have everything turned off/unplugged, even the converter.

Be interesting to see then on my next outing if it can fire it. I'll be heading up into the mountains, but not very high, ~3000ft level.
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'12 Eagle Cap 1160, 800watts solar, Tristar MPPT, Magnum Hybrid 3k Inverter
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'17 Can Am X3 XDS Turbo

OpenRangePullen
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Yes thats pushing it.
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old_guy
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at or close to sea level the honda will start an a/c. but get into the hills and it might be another story all together.