Oct-23-2020 03:59 AM
Oct-24-2020 05:54 AM
mr61impala wrote:
Thanks for all the great information! Just went to two trailer websites. The original trailer we bought the truck to pull was listed as #5700 last year, but is now listed as #6000 UVW; the #7000 GVRW, and #730 hitch weight are unchanged. The other trailer is still listed at #6100 with a GVWR of #7700, and a hitch weight of #715. The main difference I see is it has larger tires/wheels, 15" vs 14", and the trailer with larger tires is 3" taller. One can carry #1000 of gear, the other #1600. I like the reserve capacity even though we would never use it. Wouldn't these be very similar in the real world, assuming the same amount of gear loaded into each? Apples and oranges I know.
Oct-24-2020 05:32 AM
Oct-24-2020 04:41 AM
richclover wrote:mr61impala wrote:
Hello. It's been awhile since I've been here and I had forgotten how much fun this forum can be. Awhile back we decided to buy another travel trailer and we picked out one that weighed #5700 with a tongue weight of just under #800.
We purchased a new half ton Hemi crew cab with every available towing option including 3.92 gears, Ram rates it to tow #11,400 with a bed capacity of almost #1800.
Since we got this truck we started thinking maybe we could tow a little bigger camper and are wondering what would be a comfortable match to this particular vehicle. If you are towing with a 3.92 Hemi truck I would love to hear your story.
I am not into anything approaching it's maximum values as I don't want to hear the engine screaming up every hill, just wondering if #7000 or even #8000 trailer was a reasonable option. I will say when I'm towing my small tractor and bush hog on a #1550 tandem trailer (total weight of about #4500) you can barely tell it's back there.
Thanks in advance for your help.
We traded our Coleman bumper pull camper last spring. I hooked it up to our Ram Hemi half ton to haul it to the dealership about 2 miles away. It was unloaded, but still at least 900# on the WD hitch and close to 7000# gross.
No way I would be happy towing that rig with the half ton.
Behind my Ram 2500 Cummins... no worries.
The Hemi does very nicely towing the flatbed, loaded with the CanAm, total weight about 3300#. Well under limits, FWIW.
Have fun and, as always, YMMV!
PS. The only way to know what you are really towing is to load it all up and weigh it. Published numbers are... just that.
Oct-23-2020 07:48 PM
Oct-23-2020 06:31 PM
Oct-23-2020 04:35 PM
mr61impala wrote:
Hello. It's been awhile since I've been here and I had forgotten how much fun this forum can be. Awhile back we decided to buy another travel trailer and we picked out one that weighed #5700 with a tongue weight of just under #800.
We purchased a new half ton Hemi crew cab with every available towing option including 3.92 gears, Ram rates it to tow #11,400 with a bed capacity of almost #1800.
Since we got this truck we started thinking maybe we could tow a little bigger camper and are wondering what would be a comfortable match to this particular vehicle. If you are towing with a 3.92 Hemi truck I would love to hear your story.
I am not into anything approaching it's maximum values as I don't want to hear the engine screaming up every hill, just wondering if #7000 or even #8000 trailer was a reasonable option. I will say when I'm towing my small tractor and bush hog on a #1550 tandem trailer (total weight of about #4500) you can barely tell it's back there.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Oct-23-2020 04:19 PM
valhalla360 wrote:mr61impala wrote:APT wrote:
The general feedback for people towing over 8000 pounds loaded with half tons is not positive. How much is your as equipped payload and receiver rating? 8000 pounds loaded means 1000-1200 pounds of tongue weight. How much stuff/people do you put in the vehicle when towing? That Tire and Loading sticker will likely be your limit well under 11,000 pounds for a TT.
Just the two of us in the truck and we have always packed with weight in mind.
This truck came from the factory with a class 4 hitch which I believe is rated up to #10,000.
The larger trailers under consideration have the following specs:
1). UVW of #7050 and hitch weight of #710,
2), UVW of #6500 and hitch weight of #735.
Once loaded those trailers are likely in the 8000-9000lb range with 1000-1200lb hitch weight. (hence the suggestion to look at GVWR rather than UVW as a first pass)
So if your payload rating is 1800lb, that leaves you 600-800lb after hitching the trailer. You and the misses weight comes off that and then anything bolted onto the truck and any cargo...It can be done but if you want to stay within the payload rating, you need to be really firm about loading things in the truck.
This is why I suggested 7000-7500lb (GVWR). That brings the hitch weight down and gives you some breathing room on truck payload.
The pretty much all come with a class 4 hitch...it's rating rarely is a consideration.
Oct-23-2020 02:13 PM
mr61impala wrote:APT wrote:
The general feedback for people towing over 8000 pounds loaded with half tons is not positive. How much is your as equipped payload and receiver rating? 8000 pounds loaded means 1000-1200 pounds of tongue weight. How much stuff/people do you put in the vehicle when towing? That Tire and Loading sticker will likely be your limit well under 11,000 pounds for a TT.
Just the two of us in the truck and we have always packed with weight in mind.
This truck came from the factory with a class 4 hitch which I believe is rated up to #10,000.
The larger trailers under consideration have the following specs:
1). UVW of #7050 and hitch weight of #710,
2), UVW of #6500 and hitch weight of #735.
Oct-23-2020 11:18 AM
Oct-23-2020 10:15 AM
MitchF150 wrote:
When I shop, I look at the GVWR of the trailer.. Not the UVW, as that's a meaningless number to me... I pack heavy, admit to it and proud of it! 🙂
I went from a #5000 GVW TT to a #7000 GVW last year and with my max tow F150 with the Eco, it's about all I want to tow with it and STILL have a comfortable tow... (My F150 is rated for #11,300)
Here are my door stickers to compare to. I know I'm pretty much maxed out, as I said, I pack heavy and load up the bed and the trailer.
Good luck! Mitch
Oct-23-2020 10:05 AM
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Oct-23-2020 09:14 AM
Oct-23-2020 08:21 AM
APT wrote:
The general feedback for people towing over 8000 pounds loaded with half tons is not positive. How much is your as equipped payload and receiver rating? 8000 pounds loaded means 1000-1200 pounds of tongue weight. How much stuff/people do you put in the vehicle when towing? That Tire and Loading sticker will likely be your limit well under 11,000 pounds for a TT.