Jan-20-2018 07:35 AM
Jan-22-2018 10:59 AM
Toolguy5 wrote:BurbMan wrote:
ScottG, he meant "us" as in trailer towers, not "us" as in Jayco. He said Jayco was on the industry design team that helped spec the tire with GY.
Yikes, just looked them up and $175 EACH?!?! I paid $500 out the door for the whole set of my current LT's.
Michelin Rib LT's run around $225 each. I put them on my 5er 2 years ago including spare. So $175 each for Endurance is not so bad.
Jan-22-2018 07:59 AM
Jan-22-2018 05:35 AM
SoundGuy wrote:No loss for me. That stopped 12 years ago.Huntindog wrote:
Regardless, I will never run them. The ST tire makers lied to me about the tires they have produced in the past. I was a one time believer in their hype. That was proven wrong. Many thousands of dollars later, I discovered the truth. These same tire makers do not deserve any more of my money.
No doubt Goodyear is shaking in it's boots. :R
Your loss, not theirs. :W
Jan-22-2018 05:32 AM
gmw photos wrote:
While talking to my GY shop owner we talked about the Endurance. He said they are selling quite a few of them, and so far so good. Then he paused and said, "it's still just a ST though...."
Jan-22-2018 05:22 AM
Toolguy5 wrote:BurbMan wrote:
ScottG, he meant "us" as in trailer towers, not "us" as in Jayco. He said Jayco was on the industry design team that helped spec the tire with GY.
Yikes, just looked them up and $175 EACH?!?! I paid $500 out the door for the whole set of my current LT's.
Michelin Rib LT's run around $225 each. I put them on my 5er 2 years ago including spare. So $175 each for Endurance is not so bad.
Jan-22-2018 05:04 AM
Jan-22-2018 04:21 AM
BurbMan wrote:
ScottG, he meant "us" as in trailer towers, not "us" as in Jayco. He said Jayco was on the industry design team that helped spec the tire with GY.
Yikes, just looked them up and $175 EACH?!?! I paid $500 out the door for the whole set of my current LT's.
Jan-22-2018 02:16 AM
Jan-22-2018 01:11 AM
Huntindog wrote:
Regardless, I will never run them. The ST tire makers lied to me about the tires they have produced in the past. I was a one time believer in their hype. That was proven wrong. Many thousands of dollars later, I discovered the truth. These same tire makers do not deserve any more of my money.
Jan-22-2018 12:36 AM
tomman58 wrote:I am awake. And my eyes are wide open.Huntindog wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:He said these were by far an important tire upgrade. period. The light truck tires do not have the rigid side walls that these new ones do and are not made for straight line pulling.
Like I said this was a head guy from Jayco and his info was invaluable. To bad all of us do not have access to people other than sales guys that have other interests.
LOL...the guy needs to stick with his product. His statements tells me he's not very knowledgeable about ST or LT tires.
Give him this blog http://www.rvtiresafety.net/2018/01/why-do-trailer-tires-fail-more-often.htmlfrom a actual tire engineer (Tireman9 ) for him to better educate himself on the subject of ST vs LT tires.
There are dozens of subject matter for days of reading about tires for all types of trucks/motorhomes/trailers/etc.
ROTFLMAO.
What exactly is so difficult about straight line pulling that requires "special" construction?
And LRE LT tire have plenty stiff sidewalls.
It appears that this new endurance tire is a LOT closer to LT type construction, including a higher price point that was previously unavailable in STs.
The 100,000 question is whether enough people will pony up the extra $$$ for what MAY turn out to be a quality ST tire.
The second big question is will the long term testing live up to the hype.
Please realize this isn't some nobody that has an "opinion" but an engineer that has real world information that has credibility behind it. The difference from listening to some lay person is the difference between intelligence and hear say. These tires have been out there for a year and a half and the folks on this thread have told of good things. Wake up.
Jan-21-2018 06:49 PM
Huntindog wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:He said these were by far an important tire upgrade. period. The light truck tires do not have the rigid side walls that these new ones do and are not made for straight line pulling.
Like I said this was a head guy from Jayco and his info was invaluable. To bad all of us do not have access to people other than sales guys that have other interests.
LOL...the guy needs to stick with his product. His statements tells me he's not very knowledgeable about ST or LT tires.
Give him this blog http://www.rvtiresafety.net/2018/01/why-do-trailer-tires-fail-more-often.htmlfrom a actual tire engineer (Tireman9 ) for him to better educate himself on the subject of ST vs LT tires.
There are dozens of subject matter for days of reading about tires for all types of trucks/motorhomes/trailers/etc.
ROTFLMAO.
What exactly is so difficult about straight line pulling that requires "special" construction?
And LRE LT tire have plenty stiff sidewalls.
It appears that this new endurance tire is a LOT closer to LT type construction, including a higher price point that was previously unavailable in STs.
The 100,000 question is whether enough people will pony up the extra $$$ for what MAY turn out to be a quality ST tire.
The second big question is will the long term testing live up to the hype.
Jan-21-2018 05:39 PM
Huntindog wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:He said these were by far an important tire upgrade. period. The light truck tires do not have the rigid side walls that these new ones do and are not made for straight line pulling.
Like I said this was a head guy from Jayco and his info was invaluable. To bad all of us do not have access to people other than sales guys that have other interests.
LOL...the guy needs to stick with his product. His statements tells me he's not very knowledgeable about ST or LT tires.
Give him this blog http://www.rvtiresafety.net/2018/01/why-do-trailer-tires-fail-more-often.htmlfrom a actual tire engineer (Tireman9 ) for him to better educate himself on the subject of ST vs LT tires.
There are dozens of subject matter for days of reading about tires for all types of trucks/motorhomes/trailers/etc.
ROTFLMAO.
What exactly is so difficult about straight line pulling that requires "special" construction?
And LRE LT tire have plenty stiff sidewalls.
It appears that this new endurance tire is a LOT closer to LT type construction, including a higher price point that was previously unavailable in STs.
The 100,000 question is whether enough people will pony up the extra $$$ for what MAY turn out to be a quality ST tire.
The second big question is will the long term testing live up to the hype.
Jan-21-2018 05:09 PM
JIMNLIN wrote:He said these were by far an important tire upgrade. period. The light truck tires do not have the rigid side walls that these new ones do and are not made for straight line pulling.
Like I said this was a head guy from Jayco and his info was invaluable. To bad all of us do not have access to people other than sales guys that have other interests.
LOL...the guy needs to stick with his product. His statements tells me he's not very knowledgeable about ST or LT tires.
Give him this blog http://www.rvtiresafety.net/2018/01/why-do-trailer-tires-fail-more-often.htmlfrom a actual tire engineer (Tireman9 ) for him to better educate himself on the subject of ST vs LT tires.
There are dozens of subject matter for days of reading about tires for all types of trucks/motorhomes/trailers/etc.
Jan-21-2018 04:49 PM
He said these were by far an important tire upgrade. period. The light truck tires do not have the rigid side walls that these new ones do and are not made for straight line pulling.
Like I said this was a head guy from Jayco and his info was invaluable. To bad all of us do not have access to people other than sales guys that have other interests.
Jan-21-2018 04:14 PM