โJun-19-2015 06:52 AM
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โJun-21-2015 10:45 AM
AH64ID wrote:Ok, I did as you suggested. I'll let these two pics speak for themselves (Ram 3500 Aisin on left, Nissan Titan Cummins Aisin on right). Looks like a big thumbs up for the Nissan Titan Cummins to me . . . ">otrfun wrote:The article does say that (missed it), but that article also says it will use the same rear axle as the Ram 2500 Power Wagon.AH64ID wrote:Direct quote from the Truck Trend Nissan Titan Diesel article the OP mentioned: "The exclusive transmission is an Aisin-sourced heavy-duty six-speed automatic, the same unit used for the Ram 3500." I've seen the same thing mentioned in nearly every first-look article about the Nissan Titan Diesel I've read for a number of months now.
Just because the transmission is made by Aisin does not mean it's the same one and a simple photo comparison says they are not the same as the Ram.
Aisin also makes the transmission in my 4Runner ๐
They are a well known transmission company but so far the only place I have seen calling it the same transmission as the Ram is the forums.... Nothing else backs it up to include photos.
Look at the rear axle pictured and then read the article. The axle in the photo is the AAM 9.5" Semi-Float 14 bolt used by GM. The axle mentioned in the article is a AAM 10.5" full float axle (not the same as the 10.5" 14 bolt full float). The XD is very obviously using a SF axle and there isn't a Ram 2500 available with a SF axle.
So let's get something other than a truck trend writer/editor as evidence.
Here are some Nissan per-production photos.
http://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/2016-titan/
Then google AS69RC and you will see they are not the same transmission.
Then again why would Nissan want the AS69RC as it is BEYOND overkill and not a cheap option on top of the Cummins 6.7.
โJun-20-2015 04:23 PM
4X4Dodger wrote:RobertRyan wrote:4X4Dodger wrote:
In the July August issue of Truck Trend Magazine is an extended article on the new Nissan half ton Titan. Equipped with a Cummins 5.0L V8 diesel and the Aisin 6 speed transmission this truck will be very interesting.
It's payload and towing numbers are impressive: Payload 2000 lbs and more than 12,000 lbs of towing.
310 Hp at 3200 rpm and 555 lb/ft of torque for the engine.
Suddenly what is towable with a half ton has expanded. And the "buy a one ton" crowd may have to re think their philosophy a bit.
Like it or not this is a very interesting truck.
It will be interesting to see what the real numbers are
Since the numbers in the article were provided by Nissan and they are stated as..."2000 Plus" and "12,000 plus", I assume these are "real" numbers but will be slightly higher. As this truck is already designed and well into parts ordering and production they had better be already settled.
โJun-20-2015 11:36 AM
RobertRyan wrote:4X4Dodger wrote:
In the July August issue of Truck Trend Magazine is an extended article on the new Nissan half ton Titan. Equipped with a Cummins 5.0L V8 diesel and the Aisin 6 speed transmission this truck will be very interesting.
It's payload and towing numbers are impressive: Payload 2000 lbs and more than 12,000 lbs of towing.
310 Hp at 3200 rpm and 555 lb/ft of torque for the engine.
Suddenly what is towable with a half ton has expanded. And the "buy a one ton" crowd may have to re think their philosophy a bit.
Like it or not this is a very interesting truck.
It will be interesting to see what the real numbers are
โJun-19-2015 09:37 PM
4X4Dodger wrote:
In the July August issue of Truck Trend Magazine is an extended article on the new Nissan half ton Titan. Equipped with a Cummins 5.0L V8 diesel and the Aisin 6 speed transmission this truck will be very interesting.
It's payload and towing numbers are impressive: Payload 2000 lbs and more than 12,000 lbs of towing.
310 Hp at 3200 rpm and 555 lb/ft of torque for the engine.
Suddenly what is towable with a half ton has expanded. And the "buy a one ton" crowd may have to re think their philosophy a bit.
Like it or not this is a very interesting truck.
โJun-19-2015 08:16 PM
otrfun wrote:AH64ID wrote:Direct quote from the Truck Trend Nissan Titan Diesel article the OP mentioned: "The exclusive transmission is an Aisin-sourced heavy-duty six-speed automatic, the same unit used for the Ram 3500." I've seen the same thing mentioned in nearly every first-look article about the Nissan Titan Diesel I've read for a number of months now.
Just because the transmission is made by Aisin does not mean it's the same one and a simple photo comparison says they are not the same as the Ram.
Aisin also makes the transmission in my 4Runner ๐
They are a well known transmission company but so far the only place I have seen calling it the same transmission as the Ram is the forums.... Nothing else backs it up to include photos.
โJun-19-2015 07:29 PM
AH64ID wrote:Direct quote from the Truck Trend Nissan Titan Diesel article the OP mentioned: "The exclusive transmission is an Aisin-sourced heavy-duty six-speed automatic, the same unit used for the Ram 3500." I've seen the same thing mentioned in nearly every first-look article about the Nissan Titan Diesel I've read for a number of months now.
Just because the transmission is made by Aisin does not mean it's the same one and a simple photo comparison says they are not the same as the Ram.
Aisin also makes the transmission in my 4Runner ๐
They are a well known transmission company but so far the only place I have seen calling it the same transmission as the Ram is the forums.... Nothing else backs it up to include photos.
โJun-19-2015 06:54 PM
โJun-19-2015 06:44 PM
Turtle n Peeps wrote:FishOnOne wrote:spoon059 wrote:
I'm curious to see what the REAL WORLD payloads and costs will be. You can option a Toyota Tundra to have over 2000 lbs payload (reg cab, short bed, 4x2), so its somewhat disheartening to read that the Titan is advertised as 2000 lbs payload. Now... if you can get a crew cab 4x4 with 2000 payload then I am interested.
Then you get into the $10K upgrade price. If a regular Titan is $30K, that makes the Titan XD around $40K. For that kind of money I can get a 1 ton truck with some options and a LOT more payload.
I'm keeping an open mind though and am hopeful that this ends up being a quality truck. To take sales away from the Big 3 3/4 trucks they are going to need to offer better quality, better mileage and/or better price. Without 20+ mpgs or a better price, I see this being a potential dog for Nissan.
I'm glad you were open minded enough to take that Toyota built with most US made parts slogan off your signature! :W
BTW... My SIL's father has a Nissan Titan and I get tired of hearing how great of a truck it is.
More than likely revenge from sitting through dinner parties with you saying how good your 6.0 diesel was. :B
โJun-19-2015 05:53 PM
FishOnOne wrote:spoon059 wrote:
I'm curious to see what the REAL WORLD payloads and costs will be. You can option a Toyota Tundra to have over 2000 lbs payload (reg cab, short bed, 4x2), so its somewhat disheartening to read that the Titan is advertised as 2000 lbs payload. Now... if you can get a crew cab 4x4 with 2000 payload then I am interested.
Then you get into the $10K upgrade price. If a regular Titan is $30K, that makes the Titan XD around $40K. For that kind of money I can get a 1 ton truck with some options and a LOT more payload.
I'm keeping an open mind though and am hopeful that this ends up being a quality truck. To take sales away from the Big 3 3/4 trucks they are going to need to offer better quality, better mileage and/or better price. Without 20+ mpgs or a better price, I see this being a potential dog for Nissan.
I'm glad you were open minded enough to take that Toyota built with most US made parts slogan off your signature! :W
BTW... My SIL's father has a Nissan Titan and I get tired of hearing how great of a truck it is.
โJun-19-2015 05:40 PM
โJun-19-2015 05:33 PM
spoon059 wrote:
I'm curious to see what the REAL WORLD payloads and costs will be. You can option a Toyota Tundra to have over 2000 lbs payload (reg cab, short bed, 4x2), so its somewhat disheartening to read that the Titan is advertised as 2000 lbs payload. Now... if you can get a crew cab 4x4 with 2000 payload then I am interested.
Then you get into the $10K upgrade price. If a regular Titan is $30K, that makes the Titan XD around $40K. For that kind of money I can get a 1 ton truck with some options and a LOT more payload.
I'm keeping an open mind though and am hopeful that this ends up being a quality truck. To take sales away from the Big 3 3/4 trucks they are going to need to offer better quality, better mileage and/or better price. Without 20+ mpgs or a better price, I see this being a potential dog for Nissan.
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