New tire time - Destination AT, Dueler Revo, Transforce AT?

[alexleblanc]

So a week ago I decided I wanted to move up to 20" wheels on my truck for various reasons and now I've got to decide on a set of tires for the new wheels. (Stock 18's were shot). Wheels are 20x9 with 18mm offset.

I'm looking for first hand experience with any of these three tires ( they are all around 280$ Canadian and within what I want to spend)
1. 275/65r20 Firestone Destination AT
2. 275/65r20 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 2
3. 285/60R20 Firestone Transforce AT (stock Ram 2500 size)
4. 275/65r20 Yokohama Geolandar A/TS
5. 275/65r20 Toyo AT2

My requirement are:
1. Quiet enough at highway speed (I found my BFG AT's fine)
2. Capable enough in dirt, mud and wet grass as I hunt, fish and also due to work drive through construction sites most weekdays
3. Long lasting for an AT ( want to get at least 50k Kms/ 30k miles)

[Grit_dog]

Vanished wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

kzspree320 wrote:

kzspree320 wrote:
I hadFirestone Transforce ATs on my 2008 Ram 2500 for about 30,000 miles until I recently traded the truck. Tires were in great shape and I liked them. Good luck. Keith

I posted as shown above earlier in the thread. What I posted is accurate. Mine would have probably gone 60K miles. BUT - Mine were not the OEM tires. I bought them as replacements. Maybe the OEM tires are not built to the same specs. Just speculating.

That's hard to know, and I doubt mfgs make a special run of tires for the OE apps but anything is possible.
RE Transforce, I've never completely run out a set, but the first set I had were pretty hashed in lower miles iirc.

Actually based off everything I've seen it seems the OEM tires are far worse than replacements and they do do special runs with unique compounds for OEM usage...

It does make sense as I swear OE tires wear out quicker. But I attributed it to being harder on them than the next set I had to mortgage the house for....lol.

[MVH1]

I'm Trying to sell my Firestone HT now on CL only because I want a more aggressive look. I Have heard great reports from cooper at3. I got a quote from Discount Tire for $185 a tire as compared the Toyo at $240. Great reports on both tires.

[alexleblanc]

Just an update, I bit the bullet today and ordered my tires. I went around town and checked out what a few shops had in stock, read a bunch more online and decided on Toyo Open Country AT2 in 295/60r20. This makes them 33.9" tall compared to the 33.2" tall stock size that came with my truck, seeing as I have 3.31 gears I was a little uncomfortable going much taller as I know it will hurt towing performance.

[marobrown]

I have the Dayton Timberline AT2 on my F150 in LT/265/70/17 C. Comparing the tread and what my tire installer tells me they are the exact same tire as the Destination AT. I currently have 103K miles on my tires. Would love to buy the exact same tire, but Dayton got out of the light weight vehicle tire business. I looked into the Destination but they are only available in that size as a P275/60/17. Nothing in a 6 or even 10 ply tire in that size. So I'm back out looking for another brand. Overall I was very happy with the tires, my truck is 2wd and I got stuck in a yard in wet clay one time, and noticed that they did not clean out the tread very well. It was completely packed. Since it was 2wd I wasn't too worried about that since it rarely leaves the step rest anyway. Wet and snow traction did very well I drive 35 miles one way to work on the highway and have always had about 200# in the back during winter but even with the 6 or 8 inches we got a few years ago I had no issues at all. They did not have much road noise either.

[alexleblanc]

I'm a few weeks away from ordering the tires as I'm waiting on the wheels to get here. I'm Decided on the Firestone Destination AT in the stock 275/65r20 size. They work out to be nearly 80$ cheaper per tire than the Michelin AT2's that tirerack rates below them. I'm buying local as the Canadian dollar is doing poorly and I've found a few good prices locally.

[Vanished]

Grit dog wrote:

kzspree320 wrote:

kzspree320 wrote:
I hadFirestone Transforce ATs on my 2008 Ram 2500 for about 30,000 miles until I recently traded the truck. Tires were in great shape and I liked them. Good luck. Keith

I posted as shown above earlier in the thread. What I posted is accurate. Mine would have probably gone 60K miles. BUT - Mine were not the OEM tires. I bought them as replacements. Maybe the OEM tires are not built to the same specs. Just speculating.

That's hard to know, and I doubt mfgs make a special run of tires for the OE apps but anything is possible.
RE Transforce, I've never completely run out a set, but the first set I had were pretty hashed in lower miles iirc.

Actually based off everything I've seen it seems the OEM tires are far worse than replacements and they do do special runs with unique compounds for OEM usage...

[Grit_dog]

Vanished wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Whether one likes them or not, Transforce tires are cheap bargain OE tires, just like the Duravis, generals, hankooks etc that mfgs slap on the trucks.
One will never see the performance and/or longevity out of these types of tires compared to top of the line or dedicated purpose tires.
Doesn't mean they are bad China bombs or anything, just you get what you pay for.

I would have been far less upset had I not paid a $200 premium as an 'all terrain' tire that will last under 20k miles...

Yeah that sucks but compared to the top of the line tires, they are much cheaper cost aftermarket, so $50 extra over the HTs per tire isn't too much.
Dunno how they do in mud but, again, snow traction is abysmal.
I am running out the OE Tforce AT takeoffs I bought since I'm not getting much snow time this year but the few trips to the mountains have resulted in several minor stucks pulling my sled trailer that any other dedicated AT or MT I've run would pull right through.

[Grit_dog]

kzspree320 wrote:

kzspree320 wrote:
I hadFirestone Transforce ATs on my 2008 Ram 2500 for about 30,000 miles until I recently traded the truck. Tires were in great shape and I liked them. Good luck. Keith

I posted as shown above earlier in the thread. What I posted is accurate. Mine would have probably gone 60K miles. BUT - Mine were not the OEM tires. I bought them as replacements. Maybe the OEM tires are not built to the same specs. Just speculating.

That's hard to know, and I doubt mfgs make a special run of tires for the OE apps but anything is possible.
RE Transforce, I've never completely run out a set, but the first set I had were pretty hashed in lower miles iirc.

[noteven]

My neighbor has 8 rabbits.

[time2roll]

I am partial to Goodyear and do not see any on your list. 90,000 out of the OEM AT/S and 70,000 miles out of the Silent Armor. Worked well for me in snow sand mud and dirt.

Next set will be Wrangler All-Terrain.

[Searching_Ut]

up2nogood wrote:

Searching_Ut wrote:

drittal wrote:

IdaD wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
IdaD - what you no like about TransForce HT ?

They have poor traction offroad and they don't seem to do very well on snowy or icy roads.

Im not impressed with my H/T's cold/snowy/icy performance.

I've actually been very impressed with the performance of my TransForce HT's on ice, powdery snow and cold hard pack. They don't seem to do all that well compared to other tires I've had over the years on wet slushy snow however.

Not sure how many miles you got on your OEM Transforce HT's ,but at 15K mine are over half worn out on my 2014 Ram 3500. I will be elated to see 25K. IMO they are a terrible tire, would never recommend them for these trucks. It would be the last tire I would buy from the performance of the ones that I have.

They were just rotated for the third time, every 5K. Only good thing I can say about them is that they are all wearing even, and very fast at that.

It seems some think they are the greatest thing since canned beer, and others just the opposite . I don't see the reason for the difference in performance ,and wear, but mine are sure terrible as far as wear.

I can't attest to wear on these tires as I have less than 5k on them but based on how good of traction they get on ice I wouldn't be surprised if they wear rapidly as that is the normal tradeoff I've experienced in the past. My last truck had had Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A's that looked more aggressive, but got real poor traction in the slick stuff. Prior to that I had Michelin LTX's that were maybe a little better in the slush, not quite as good on ice.

As for my current tires, truck purchased at end of September, so far only used for towing, or snowing days when it made more sense to take the truck vs the car. Last weekend was a 1875 mile roadtrip to North Dakota, pick up triple axle fifth wheel to tow to Wyoming, then back to Utah. About 300 mile of snow and ice on the way up, then while towing maybe 100 miles of freezing rain/ice in ND, clear sailing through SD, then a couple hundred miles of ice progressively turning to 6 plus inches of snow to tow through Wyoming part of it on roads that got closed while I was still on them. Running empty back to Utah was largely on packed snow floor. For what looks to be a tire only good on dry pavement they did great traction wise and I only had to chain up to initially get the 5er out of the mud up in ND.

[kzspree320]

kzspree320 wrote:
I hadFirestone Transforce ATs on my 2008 Ram 2500 for about 30,000 miles until I recently traded the truck. Tires were in great shape and I liked them. Good luck. Keith

I posted as shown above earlier in the thread. What I posted is accurate. Mine would have probably gone 60K miles. BUT - Mine were not the OEM tires. I bought them as replacements. Maybe the OEM tires are not built to the same specs. Just speculating.

[Vanished]

Grit dog wrote:
Whether one likes them or not, Transforce tires are cheap bargain OE tires, just like the Duravis, generals, hankooks etc that mfgs slap on the trucks.
One will never see the performance and/or longevity out of these types of tires compared to top of the line or dedicated purpose tires.
Doesn't mean they are bad China bombs or anything, just you get what you pay for.

I would have been far less upset had I not paid a $200 premium as an 'all terrain' tire that will last under 20k miles...

[mudfuel07]

I would go with the Cooper's. I had their knockoff version and loved them.