Price of new trucks way above the economic recovery rate

[monkey44]

If you 'casually' watch truck prices, we see a gradual increase over time.

Was once pretty easy to ask a salesman "How much difference between last year and this year." Answer: "Oh, couple hundred bucks." A truth maybe in base price - although not that low in reality. But not such a jump that it seemed outrageous.

Then suddenly, a few large jumps, like $5000, and at the same time, all the ads giving $5000 off. Then the prices eroding the "Off Factor" as the prices really did jump that high... and the "Oh, a couple hundred bucks." Still the same answer, but the discounts much lower, means the truck 'seems lower' but in fact isn't.


For, example, when you look at a 2500 GMC in 2003 at well under $30k, and then look at the COLA since that time frame, about 12.8% combined, we see a price increase in fact of over 28%% combined, makes you wonder about value for the bucks.

GM saved a ton of money cutting off payouts, and cutting down a lot of union benefits for retired GM employees, but it sure doesn't reflect that in the selling prices.

SO, it always makes me wonder where all that sales money goes, and where that buyer money comes from - when all of the buyers make 13.8% more money over ten years (and 1% on savings accounts) but the price of vehicles MSRP jumps over 25% ...

Most recent dealer quote I got (couple months ago, local) was $39k on a $46k list = on the lot and not equipped well). So, even with the 'great deal' that's still about a 30% increase in numbers, and when we adjust for 'inflation' ... still 20.2% jump in real dollars.

So would like those folks that adjust those numbers to send it to that person who writes my check, so I can afford to go down and pick out one of those pretty awesome new trucks ... soon as GM releases that Double Cab in the 2500HD 🙂 🙂 🙂

[blt2ski]

Last I looked, there is a forum that is part of this groups log in, www.trashtalk.com You all can go there and have ALL the PHUN you want. You can use your current handle, password etc........

I agree with Chris, the last time this country was THIS divided, about 1860-65! We all should know what happened then! Same as what is happening in many other countries right not, with no help/lots o hurt from us!

Marty

[NJRVer]

goducks10 wrote:

ksss wrote:
This is interesting, a political slug fest pitting:

A Liberal from Utah (must be the only one in the entire State).

A Conservative from DC (The District housing the most Liberal President ever to hold the office).

Sorry, I find it a little comical.

I didn't even know there was another cable news network except for Fox. Guess I need to look at my Direct TV listing guide again.

Channel 249. The Daily Show

X2.

[goducks10]

ksss wrote:
This is interesting, a political slug fest pitting:

A Liberal from Utah (must be the only one in the entire State).

A Conservative from DC (The District housing the most Liberal President ever to hold the office).

Sorry, I find it a little comical.

I didn't even know there was another cable news network except for Fox. Guess I need to look at my Direct TV listing guide again.

Channel 249. The Daily Show

[Engineer9860]

I seem to have lost my grey Polo shirt.

Has anyone seen it?

[bmanning]

I can't believe Morton Downey Jr (he knows who he is) hasn't weighed in on this one yet; he must be busy tonight...or frozen, he does live in Michigan.

[Francesca_Knowl]

Me Again wrote:

For all you that ™think

:B

I can't stand it- even THINKING is trademarked these days. (See little "TM" mark, above)

No wonder so few of us are allowed to do it- dang lawyers!

[Me_Again]

Never in recent years have we been such a divided nation! And never has such a small percentage of our population benefited so greatly while the working class is left with the bill for the tax breaks given to those same people at the top.

For all you that ™think" you are doing OK, you soon will be next to be cleaned out as those at the top continue their money grab.

Wake up America! Soon a used pickup will be out of reach.

Chris

[bid_time]

Redsky wrote:

donn0128 wrote:
Add in the outrageous government regulations imposed on the auto makers that have taken effect in the last 10 years or so and it is quite understandable how the prices have jumped so dramatically. And this is only the start.

Boy you really buy into that propaganda. The automakers said they would go out of business if they had to put in seat belts. and said the same when ABS brakes were mandated and again with catalytic converters and again with air bags. They cry wolf again and again and some people still bite.

GM had problems as their executives were greedy and they got the company into the finance business. 100% of the GM losses that required a government bailout were tied to their financial division.

The cost of the bailout was $4 billion higher thanks to the group that included Mitt Romney that told the feds that they would shut down Delphi (and shut down GM as its 100% of its cars required Delphi parts) that demanded a 3000 percent return on their investment or else...

New pickup truck has a lot of things that my first truck lacked, like a heater, air conditioner, air conditioned seats, heated seats, rear camera, GPS navigation, Bose sound system, Bluetooth, power seats, fog lights, air bags, seat belts, ABS brakes, limited slip differential, 6-speed transmission, power steering, power brakes, AM FM radio, XM radio, and a rear seat and doors for passengers.

The big three keep making prettier trucks with more bling and people will pay for it. Who can argue with success?

We have become a nation of sheep that happily elects wolves to public office as we take the advice of the jackals at the Fox propaganda network. The price of new trucks is less the issue than the lack of any increase in worker's wages since the days when Nixon was in the White House.

Now that's funny stuff. First sentence calls out someone for "Propoganda", then goes on to spew 6 paragraphs of it. Talk about hypocrite.

[NJRVer]

bmanning wrote:
Great Googley-Moogley another thread gone political...

Right now, somewhere in a parellel universe, there's a website devoted to political discourse in which a thread just morphed into a discussion about tow vehicles.

ROFLMAO!

[ksss]

This is interesting, a political slug fest pitting:

A Liberal from Utah (must be the only one in the entire State).

A Conservative from DC (The District housing the most Liberal President ever to hold the office).

Sorry, I find it a little comical.

I didn't even know there was another cable news network except for Fox. Guess I need to look at my Direct TV listing guide again.

[spoon059]

Francesca Knowles wrote:
Since they don't have a specific section for Pet Peeves, I think that would be your best bet. :B

I can't go into that subsection... too many stories about losing your pets. I have two 9 year old dogs and I can't even think about losing them... Makes me cry every time I read one of those posts...

[Redsky]

donn0128 wrote:
Add in the outrageous government regulations imposed on the auto makers that have taken effect in the last 10 years or so and it is quite understandable how the prices have jumped so dramatically. And this is only the start.

Boy you really buy into that propaganda. The automakers said they would go out of business if they had to put in seat belts. and said the same when ABS brakes were mandated and again with catalytic converters and again with air bags. They cry wolf again and again and some people still bite.

GM had problems as their executives were greedy and they got the company into the finance business. 100% of the GM losses that required a government bailout were tied to their financial division.

The cost of the bailout was $4 billion higher thanks to the group that included Mitt Romney that told the feds that they would shut down Delphi (and shut down GM as its 100% of its cars required Delphi parts) that demanded a 3000 percent return on their investment or else...

New pickup truck has a lot of things that my first truck lacked, like a heater, air conditioner, air conditioned seats, heated seats, rear camera, GPS navigation, Bose sound system, Bluetooth, power seats, fog lights, air bags, seat belts, ABS brakes, limited slip differential, 6-speed transmission, power steering, power brakes, AM FM radio, XM radio, and a rear seat and doors for passengers.

The big three keep making prettier trucks with more bling and people will pay for it. Who can argue with success?

We have become a nation of sheep that happily elects wolves to public office as we take the advice of the jackals at the Fox propaganda network. The price of new trucks is less the issue than the lack of any increase in worker's wages since the days when Nixon was in the White House.

[Francesca_Knowl]

spoon059 wrote:
start a specific thread in an approved area to continue.

Recommend the RV.net subforum "Petstop", subcategory "other pets".

Since they don't have a specific section for Pet Peeves, I think that would be your best bet. :B

[Targa]

What? What did I miss?