Regens in F350 often

[walker111]

Hi guys.
Seems my 2012 6.7 litre f350 has all of a sudden loved the regeneration thing!
I am talking 4 straight days I get the screen prompt " cleaning exhaust filter" while still on same tank of fuel?....

I always kept it finish when started as I did have an issue with sensors in the first year of ownership and learning Diesel patterns. I even reset the trip meter when regen starts to know it is within range of completion.
For what it's worth truck runs great during entire process.
Anyone have this happen?
I did have the latest reflash at dealer as per letter sent from Ford.
Thanks

[N-Trouble]

Passive regen for the most part only occurs when towing heavy loads or pulling hills. With no load DPF temps will never get hot enough for passive regen to occur.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

Correction don... A passive regen is the normal exhaust temp burning some of the particulates in the DPF. An active regen is when the exhaust temp is increased via diesel fuel/vapors is introduced into the exhaust to drive the temps way up to burn the particulates in the DPF.

Tory the only way to remove ash is to add heat so even a passive regeneration will raise the exhaust temps. Not as high as an active regeneration but higher than normal. Here is a good read on passive and active DPF regenerations link


Don

[FishOnOne]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Received a notice of a ecm reflash 2 weeks ago. After having it done, that night going to work a notice came up saying diesel particulate filter @ 90% please drive at highway speeds when safe. Have never seen that before the reflash but I do know all the DEF diesel trucks will do passive regens every 200-300 miles. In the Ecodiesel you are not notified until you hit the active regen or your filter is at 90%.

Wounder if the EPA made some changes that drove the reflash?

Don

Correction don... A passive regen is the normal exhaust temp burning some of the particulates in the DPF. An active regen is when the exhaust temp is increased via diesel fuel/vapors is introduced into the exhaust to drive the temps way up to burn the particulates in the DPF.

Your reminder to drive to clean the exhaust message was because normal passive regen wasn't burning the particulates and/or active regens were never completed because theres no message to tell you a regen is in process and the DPF at 90% was about to reach critical mass.

This is why I like Fords method to display when a regen is in process so the driver can make a decision to drive the truck to complete a regen rather than to shut it down during a regen and have the excessive heat cook your turbo and also to allow the DPF to continue to build soot to the point where you're forced to drive until the regen process has been completed.

[Lynnmor]

I had the drive to clean filter message when my 2011 truck was a couple of weeks old. Didn't record the mileage but it was well under 500 miles. I wonder if the computer goes thru a learning process when new and after a re-flash.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

Received a notice of a ecm reflash 2 weeks ago. After having it done, that night going to work a notice came up saying diesel particulate filter @ 90% please drive at highway speeds when safe. Have never seen that before the reflash but I do know all the DEF diesel trucks will do passive regens every 200-300 miles. In the Ecodiesel you are not notified until you hit the active regen or your filter is at 90%.

Wounder if the EPA made some changes that drove the reflash?

Don

[kennethwooster]

Maybe I'm crazy. I started with 2011 6.7 and had several free oil changes. Course they put in regular Ford oil. After free was over, I went back to Mobile full synthetic. I began to notice regen did not happen as often. Did the oil make the diff? Not sure. I now have a 2014 F30 DRW. I just don't notice region very often at all. also running the Mobile synthetic. Only thinking.

[hedge]

I hope it's not the reflash, as I just got mine done as well.

[walker111]

Travlingman wrote:
If it keeps doing it take it back to dealer and tell them. It could have been an issue with the reflash. Part of the reflash was for the emissions, and it could be causing yours to regen more than it should. After the reflash my miles per gallon went up for about 2 months, then I started getting a lot of regens like you, and some lasted for over 15 minutes, and the MPG's went down. It then settled back down, but does regen more often which is because of the reflash. Dealer said if it gives me more trouble to bring it in and they will check it.

Will do.It may sort itself out like you say. I want to keep a close eyes as mine is a 2012 with only 52 k and warranty may be nearing? Emission warranty is longer though?...

[MM49]

N-Trouble wrote:
I have a 2012 Duramax that regens like a mofo (every 150-200mi) since the day I drive it home. Doesn't really make much difference if city or highway driving. Most see 5-700mi under similar conditions which is what I would consider normal for the LML. There are several on the Dmax forum with trucks like mine and the only response we can get from GM is no code-no problem. Really??? Then why does that guys truck go 2-3x mine? I am aware of all the cited reasons that can affect regen frequency but my personal opinion is they have minimal affect at best, but definately not 2-3x. Many of us have come to the conclusion we have leaking injectors causing dirty running trucks which would make since why GM doesn't want to admit a problem. Many guys with these frequent regen trucks who got fed up and deleted are now seeing how dirty they run vs a non-frequent regen truck running the same delete tune. GM is simply hiding behind the DPFs on these trucks claiming there is no problem. I know this is about GM but I can't believe Ram and Ford aren't dealing with the same.

I agree with you. I think its time to pull the injectors and an test for bleed down and pattern.
MM49

[Travlingman]

If it keeps doing it take it back to dealer and tell them. It could have been an issue with the reflash. Part of the reflash was for the emissions, and it could be causing yours to regen more than it should. After the reflash my miles per gallon went up for about 2 months, then I started getting a lot of regens like you, and some lasted for over 15 minutes, and the MPG's went down. It then settled back down, but does regen more often which is because of the reflash. Dealer said if it gives me more trouble to bring it in and they will check it.

[The_Mad_Norsky]

Bigburd wrote:
Had my '12 F450 pulling a 5'th wheel TH up to Pennsylvania and down to the Key's and back. Have never noticed any regen notification at all. You see too many, I see nothing. Reason?

On my 11 F 350, it would show on the drivers information center screen, but just for a second or so.

If you pay attention to your MPG's, it will drop during a regen.

[walker111]

DirtyOil wrote:

walker111 wrote:
Dirty Oil
I buy fuel at same station unless towing on vacation. Never noticed the oil pressure gauge as it never caught my attention. Will check on it.
Had reflash about 3 months ago and only the past few weeks noticed the more frequent regens.
Camped about two weeks ago and towed about 250 km round trip.
Also test towed a toy hauler on Monday for 30 km.
Regular usual driving though. No pulling hills since the past trip 12 days ago.

walker111, if your not making oil (due to cracked leaky injector). maybe load the truck up heavier the better and get out on QEII or #1 for a few hundred km get that exhaust system hot and cleared out...possibly?... head up to Edmonton, check out, ousted mayor and former health minister Stephen Spendall's silver balls... if your into art!? :B

funny shyte right there!!!!!
I will not get to far anymore as I am back to work ( teacher) and the boys live in the rink with hockey starting.
I always give it a good highway run as I know it needs to heat up and work.

[walker111]

Will keep an eye on it and if continues I will ask regarding the sensors or the possible injector leak. Hope it is simple fix. Love the truck. Maybe it is isolated.

[djousma]

walker111 wrote:
Hi guys.
Seems my 2012 6.7 litre f350 has all of a sudden loved the regeneration thing!
I am talking 4 straight days I get the screen prompt " cleaning exhaust filter" while still on same tank of fuel?....

I always kept it finish when started as I did have an issue with sensors in the first year of ownership and learning Diesel patterns. I even reset the trip meter when regen starts to know it is within range of completion.
For what it's worth truck runs great during entire process.
Anyone have this happen?
I did have the latest reflash at dealer as per letter sent from Ford.
Thanks

I had this a year or so ago. MPG was significantly lower too. On mine, eventually a CEL was set and got a P249F, which indicated EGT12 sensor was going bad. This is the sensor that gets the hottest during regen. As soon as I swapped that sensor out, truck dropped into regen, but this time completed, and went back to normal.

If you run Torque-Pro with a Bluetooth OBDII adapter, you can display the running EGT11-14 sensors. You may see something out of whack.