โJan-05-2018 06:17 AM
โJan-06-2018 03:51 PM
โJan-06-2018 01:30 PM
myredracer wrote:
They also don't use females in the design process (as pointed out by my DW). That's why kitchen counters usually have space for little more than say one plate, or a coffee pot or a loaf of bread, one at a time. Or why there's no place for a garbage container and you have to hang a plastic bag off a knob on the stove. Or why there's no place to put shoes at the door. Or why there's no place to store towels or linens. Or why they don't put a shelf mid-height in upper cabinets. Or why there's no place to store a bag of dog food. Etc., etc.
Issues are often hidden where you can't see them like with electrical and plumbing or improperly sealed exteriors. Some are in plain sight and many still don't seem them like cabinet doors & drawers that are mounted wrong or tires & axles that are maxed to the limit. One that kills me (as pointed out above) is when you can't see the TV from where you'd normally be sitting to watch it. One of my pet peeves is dead space that could easily be used for storage or other purposes but the manufacturers put on blank panels or make the space totally inaccessible. Every cubic inch for storage in a TT is like gold. For ex., below are a few pics from our current TT. Came with a huge inaccessible space next to the shower with a blank wall on the bedroom side. I bought some factory doors and trim from the dealer and built some built-in cabinets for storing towels and linens and other bulky items. The manufacturer is just being cheap and lazy.
The most recent RV show I was at was last fall and I seriously doubt much has changed in recent years. JMHO. What I did see that was surprisingly different was almost no TTs for older couples and a huge emphasis on ones for families. If there ever was a next time, I'd only be looking at brands that generally are well thought of on forums and since we're on the west cost, that'd be OutdoorsRV. I could mention a few brands that I wouldn't touch for anything but won't.
โJan-06-2018 01:03 PM
โJan-06-2018 12:25 PM
LIKE2BUILD wrote:
In short, probably not.
1) The marketing team comes up with packages and features they think will sell the most RV's with the highest sales margins.
2) The designers draw up concepts that accommodate these desired packages.
3) Project managers estimate build costs and negotiations begin to ensure features, production costs, and sales price all match up to meet the margins
4) Process engineers and designers then work to draw up an assembly process that is as efficient as possible to keep costs down while packing all the features into the available space.
IF this all works well you get an RV with well placed features and options that make sense and are very useable.
If this doesn't work well? You get an RV that has a bunch of features that aren't necessarily sensible.
โJan-06-2018 10:45 AM
โJan-06-2018 09:37 AM
craftyfox wrote:
We just got home from the same show..spent over 4 hrs there and there wasn't one RV in the size range of our current rv that I would trade mine for. Apparently the people who design these rigs DON'T have to live in them!! The colors are terrible, the floor plans suck and the furniture stinks..I was NOT a happy camper when I left!!
โJan-06-2018 05:10 AM
โJan-06-2018 04:23 AM
โJan-05-2018 11:22 PM
ScottG wrote:
I think the real problem is they aren't assembled by people who use them.
โJan-05-2018 07:50 PM
โJan-05-2018 03:42 PM
Even the salesmen were scratching their heads when I pointed this out.
โJan-05-2018 02:06 PM
TxGearhead wrote:
If the line workers are doing shoddy work it still the responsibility of their supervisors and managers. If supervision accepts shoddy work, then the assemblers will assume it is OK.
Apparently they need more work practice guidance, documentation, personal responsibility for their work. You know. We've all probably been there.
โJan-05-2018 12:54 PM
โJan-05-2018 12:44 PM
โJan-05-2018 11:19 AM