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ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
When do you think RAM will overtake Chevy for the #2 spot?
Or do you think they will?

ARTICLE

Seems the experts think it might happen. Heck of a come back for an automaker than almost didn't exist 5 years ago...

From the article -
"Never before has (General Motors) lost share after launching a new pickup truck platform," Barclay's analyst Brian Johnson noted last month."
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV
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parkersdad
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Explorer
I am on my third Ram in the last 6 years. I bought a 1500 and loved it but needed a 2500 for the travel trailer. I bought a 5.7 2500 and loved it but wished I got the diesel so I did. I now own a 6.7 Cummins 2500. I drove all of the big three and in my opinion Chevy and Ford are not even close to interior and build quality of the Ram trucks. My family and I are Ford people but until Ford steps up there game I will not be back and I might just be a Ram customer for life. I guess I am a new Ram fan boy. I will never buy a GM product after getting the lemon law on a truck in 2001.

NJRVer
Explorer
Explorer
45Ricochet wrote:
MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
GM keeps with proven , dependable designs, that are on the top with mpg figures.


Say what?



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Compare 6 bangers with a Chev V8? Only close one is 5.7 Ram and 5.3 Chev. Maybe should go by HP comparison. Example: 300hp Ram vs 300 hp Chev vs 300 hp Ford.

Gunship_Guy
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Explorer
I enjoy the competition between the Big 3 because it forces them to keep getting better and better. Regardless of truck brand preference, the buyer ends up being the winner.
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45Ricochet
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Explorer
MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
GM keeps with proven , dependable designs, that are on the top with mpg figures.


Say what?



LINK
2015 Tiffin Phaeton Cummins ISL, Allison 3000, 45K GCWR
10KW Onan, Magnum Pure Sine Wave Inverter
2015 GMC Canyon Toad

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06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
06 Grand Junction 15500 GVWR 3200 pin

MARK_VANDERBENT
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Explorer
GM keeps with proven , dependable designs, that are on the top with mpg figures. All of what I just said are huge to me as a customer. Competition is a very good thing, so I am sure all of our truck makers will be real close in sales, and honestly when they are all close in sales, and even swap the lead from year to year, that would be competition at its best !!

otrfun
Explorer II
Explorer II
It's possible Ram may catch Silverado in sales at some point. However, if you add in sales of the Silverado's twin, the GMC Sierra, Ram has a long, long way to go to catch GM.

Ram is clearly shaking things up right now in the 1/2 ton segment with their 8-speed trannys, Ram Box, coil suspension, and class-leading MPG's with both their gas (Pentastar) and diesel (Ecodiesel) engines. GM is just playing it way too conservative. The Ecotec 5.3 and 6.2 are great engines with good MPG numbers. Unfortunately, in the current "ECO" marketing fray, the ECOtec pales next to the ECOdiesel and infamous ECOboost.

hone_eagle
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Explorer
First the have to build a plant to make the product ,they lack capacity /volume until then .....not a chance in *ell
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cummins2014
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Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Just ask people like up2nogood after they test drive a Ford GM and RAM with a open mind what they think. That will tell you RAM will be making more headway against the competition.



Total eye opener, I have test drove the 2011-14 Ford Superduty 6.7 crew cab short bed several times since they came out in 2011 with the 6.7. Not trying to bad mouth ford, but never got thru with a test drive thinking what a truck, or this is the one for me, and this a guy that had owned a 7.3 Superduty for nearly 16 years. Same thing with the Chevy, just didn't get that I gotta have this truck feeling. Don't get me wrong they were nice truck's, the 2014 chevy a little bland on the interior, but overall very nice. Went to the Ram dealer last, and I wasn't 2 blocks down the road, and knew what truck I was buying. Nice truck, obviously not for everyone, but IMHO the other two have nothing over on the Ram

mtofell1
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Explorer
Ram is doing well. I'm totally brand blind and just bought a Ram because it was by far the best truck for the money for what I needed. Everyone uses a truck differently and a given truck brand will fit that need the best. Ram just seems to have the biggest net in the water these days.

For the record my last trucks in order were Toyota 4runner, Ford F150, Nissan Titan, Chevy Silverado Duramax and now my Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi.

When I bought my Silverado 6 years ago my go to car guy (close friend who has been in auto body, sales, appraisals and pretty any other facet of cars/trucks over the last 25 years) told me to stay away from Dodge/Ram. They were poorly made, "loose" as he put it. They fall apart and just weren't even close to Chevy/GMC or Ford in quality or reliability. This time around he encouraged the Ram.

lbrjet
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Explorer
This trend of RAM gaining market share has been going on for the last few years, not just the last several months. If it continues they will indeed take over number 2 in the next few years. When the trend began (if I remember right) RAM sales were less than half of GM sales. If my Ford ever craps out I would be buying a 6.4 Hemi. My F250 has been rock solid though and I plan on it being around for many years to come.
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DavisK
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Explorer
That article was entertaining. It's been awhile since I've read a comedy like that.
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2014 Sunset Trail SF270BH
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Just ask people like up2nogood after they test drive a Ford GM and RAM with a open mind what they think. That will tell you RAM will be making more headway against the competition.
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autorot8
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Explorer
Too bad the writer showed his ignorance by claiming coil springs in the 1500 and leaf springs in the 2500 Ram. No fact checking anymore in journalism.
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"Overstating the Obvious rarely helps the Oblivious!"

MARK_VANDERBENT
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Explorer
Dude did you even consider the change in the GM heavy dutys would lower sales for because of those holding out for them ???? Lets look at the GM truck numbers against ram in a few months when it matters because the HD trucks are in full swing. Big picture means more than comparing when a body style changes happen on a line. Lets see at end of 2014 if they are that close to them.

45Ricochet
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Explorer
Soon enough Chevy will have the Colorado sales thrown in there to raise the numbers. I wish they would break them down into more sections/ 35, 25, 15.
So no, I don't believe Chevy will get passed up any time soon.
2015 Tiffin Phaeton Cummins ISL, Allison 3000, 45K GCWR
10KW Onan, Magnum Pure Sine Wave Inverter
2015 GMC Canyon Toad

Previous camping rig
06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
06 Grand Junction 15500 GVWR 3200 pin