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agesilaus
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I got a new to us 2018 Ram 6.7L 2500 and it is mostly great. But it came with Sailun mostly worn out tires 275/R70 18 tires. Escapees right now have a fantastic discount on Michelin 275/R70 18 tires at $105 off each tire. My understanding is that R75 means 70% or the height of the tire and R65 means 65%. I assume that not a problem. The ones I'm looking at are Michelin P275/65R18 114T LTX AT2 DT LTX AT2 at $245 discounted
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bob213
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You can change tires as long as they fit and have the capacity that you need. I found that most nationwide tire dealers will not install a tire that is more than one size large than stock. Here's a comparison tool that will show you size difference.
Tire size calculator
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Grit_dog
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Another train wreck of mis information, over explanation and stories about that โ€œone time Iโ€ฆ.โ€
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OP, you found cheap tires that are P rated and 114 load rating. This is obvious by the load rating. There is no further question. You have confused yourself about tires.
Use a tire that is rated properly for the vehicle it is to be installed on. Pick the size pick the brand pick white letters or not, but donโ€™t install anything with less than a 121 load index.
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MNRon
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You definitely want LT's. It may be possible to change sizing slightly, google 'tire calculator' and you can understand the difference between sizes and may find a similar size that fits and doesn't change your odometer etc
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blt2ski
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I had 245-75-16 lr E tires stock on an 88, 96 K3500's. I went to a 265-75-16 LR D. Those handled towing, hauling etc better than the 245's. So a rig with a lower ply rating is not an absolute worst option. The 265's in reality had a whipping 40 lbs less capacity.
Later the D rated tires were discontinued for R rated tires at 3400 per vs 3000. For my use, usually no higher load in RA in the upper 5500-6000 range. No difference between the two.
On my 1500, I only have 35 lbs in the 285-65-18 tires on it. I could only get LR E in this size. I don't use but 1/2 if the tire capacity. In my case aP or XL/LR C rating would work just fine!
No matter the truck size, you need to get the load capacity rating in the tire size you want to run. So like my 3500's going from an E to a D was not an issue.
Also make sure your rims are wide enough if you go to a wider, or higher aspect tire. That also makes a difference in handling.

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Stop shopping primarily on price and get the correct OEM size and rated tire.

Goodyear LT275/70R18

Cummins12V98
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KD4UPL wrote:
It is the ratio of section width to sidewall height. A wider tire with the same aspect ratio will also be slightly taller. The same width tire with a higher aspect ratio will be taller, lower aspect ratio will be shorter.
You don't want P tires on that truck. I'd put load range D or E on it.


No way on the D unless you want a bouncy ride especially towing.
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Beverley_Ken
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Actually check tire info sticker in the drivers door jamb. That will give you the correct size and specs that Ram recommends for that specific vehicle. It's possible that a previous owner put on a different size and spec tire, just to save money.
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agesilaus
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Thanks for that info, I had no idea about it. So it's the 70's or nothing. I really wish I could have removed the Goodrich KO2's from my old truck.
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JIMNLIN
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When mounting a P tire on a truck or trailer that has a 3640 lb rating its required to be derated by dividing 3640 by 1.1 = 3300 lb capacity.
Another hit on the big P tire vs LT tire is fabric in the P tire isn't as heavy (mil thickness) as the LT tire.
The P275/65-18 weighs 40 lbs and a 51 psi rating
The LT275/70-18 DT weighs 59 lbs and a 80 psi rating..... and is a good indicator of the LT being the heavier built for heavy loads on a one ton srw truck.

Tireman9 rvtiresafety blog has a article on this very problem of confusing a P with a LT in the same brand/tire line.
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agesilaus
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LTX A/T 2 Tire
Light Truck, SUV/Crossover All Terrain
P275/65R18
Load Capacity 3640 Pounds
And below it says load range E
But that is for the 275/65

And Michelin makes a
Size: LT275/70R18 125/122S E
Style: Blackwall
Load Range: E
Serv. Desc: 125/122S
UTQG: None

So I don't know why it's not shown. I'll call tomorrow
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agesilaus wrote:
I got a new to us 2018 Ram 6.7L 2500 and it is mostly great. But it came with Sailun mostly worn out tires 275/R70 18 tires. Escapees right now have a fantastic discount on Michelin 275/R70 18 tires at $105 off each tire.

My understanding is that R75 means 70% or the height of the tire and R65 means 65%.

I assume that not a problem. The ones I'm looking at are

Assumptions can get expensive



Michelin P275/65R18 114T LTX AT2 DT

the "P" indicates a 'passenger car' tire and has to be de-rated min of 9% when used on a pickup/SUV

Some countries will fine the tire dealer and tow a vehicle away if it has the wrong class of tires on it

Your TV should have LT class tires of the size your manual says and if you change the sizing...you are re-engineering your suspension

Many will say just do it or go for it, but they have no skin in your game. If it doesn't fit...expensive to replace/buy a new set...if it under rated...potentially dangerous situation at the limits



LTX AT2 at $245 discounted

the "LT" indicates a 'light truck' tire and does NOT need to be de-rated when used on a pickup/SUV







These are images representing how aspect ratio affects the tire/wheel combo. Lower aspect ratio of the exact same section width & wheel dia will change the overall tire dia & width




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KD4UPL
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It is the ratio of section width to sidewall height. A wider tire with the same aspect ratio will also be slightly taller. The same width tire with a higher aspect ratio will be taller, lower aspect ratio will be shorter.
You don't want P tires on that truck. I'd put load range D or E on it.

dodge_guy
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You want LT tires not P tires.
And I think you may have posted the wrong size you were thinking of because you are asking about the difference in height of the same size tire.
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