Tire blows - great reason to have a dually

[azdryheat]

We were returning from San Diego this afternoon when the inside dually let go on Interstate 8. Wife was driving and didn't realize it was a tire issue; she only heard a loud rumbling. She said the truck handled fine with the blown tire.

All the truck and trailer tires looked fine and I didn't find the blown tire until I thumped on each one. At this point I haven't examined the tire but did see a large slice of sidewall missing from the inside-facing side.

Glad we have a dually as things could have been drastically different with a SRW. I imagine the blown tire would have dropped onto the rim and perhaps a handling issue would have ensued with 18k of trailer (3,500 on the pin).

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

talonhead wrote:

Ram DRWs have TPIS Tire Pressure Information System. It displays the 6 tire pressures on the EVIC. There are no "Warning" indications, just info.

I thought the 3500 Rams had TPIS. Show in the owners manual as having them but the 2500 and 3500 are grouped together so it could have been talking about the 2500. Thanks for the clarification.

Don

[talonhead]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Glad everything worked out for you. But I have a few questions.

One, are 3500 and up trucks with DRW exempt from the tire pressure motoring systems? If not why didn't your DW say the warning on the dash? If any of my tires are under 34 psi a warning chime goes off and the DIC puts up a warning saying "LOW TIRE PRESSURE" with the tire location.

Second, as was noted if you are running heavy and continue driving with only one of your dual's you had better replace both tires. You could end up buying all four rear tires if they are more than 30% warn.

Also those two extra tires do you no good if a front tire blows out, just saying.

Don

Ram DRWs have TPIS Tire Pressure Information System. It displays the 6 tire pressures on the EVIC. There are no "Warning" indications, just info.

[Me_Again]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

RAS43 wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Training wheel envy as usual.

Exactly. It always amazes me with the bunk people come up with to justify towing over their truck's ratings. :R

And it amazes me how many people automatically believe someone is overloaded because they don't t have the same setup as theirs. I have weight tickets, do you? And I tow doubles too!

I may need a Dually.

The extra dual tires you need are on the TRAILER! Chris

[Cummins12V98]

RAS43 wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Training wheel envy as usual.

Exactly. It always amazes me with the bunk people come up with to justify towing over their truck's ratings. :R

And it amazes me how many people automatically believe someone is overloaded because they don't t have the same setup as theirs. I have weight tickets, do you? And I tow doubles too!

I may need a Dually.

[blt2ski]

I'll take a SW with the same tire loading specs as duals any day of the week! IE if duals total 5K per side, a single 5K capacity single would be prefered. If I had a semi, I'll take one of the 10,500 capacity super singles per side.

Yes I've had blow outs on singles, duals etc. ALL of them require you to go to the side per say to fix the issue. OR, as noted, you will be overloaded on the other tire for some period of time. Miles could be an issue, mile or two or three, not as much. You WILL want to slow down none the less.

Marty

[Old-Biscuit]

blofgren wrote:
OP, my comments regarding weight weren't directed at you; they were directed at the posters who posted all of the ridiculous reasons not to have a DRW truck and that a SRW is just as good. I have a DRW as well and fully understand and agree with your original post.

SRW is just as good provided one understands/comprehends ratings and matches truck/trailer combo

Not ALL safe towing requires a dually

[Old-Biscuit]

No one stated your set up was overloaded.
No one stated your truck was overloaded.
No one stated your trailer was overloaded.

I stated the one tire (outer) on your dually WAS overloaded when inner tire blew

And as you have confirmed it was overloaded by 815#
(3700 - 2885 = 815)
That is a 28.2% overload on that single tire

Comprehension does seem lacking at times though

[4x4ord]

azdryheat wrote:
We were returning from San Diego this afternoon when the inside dually let go on Interstate 8. Wife was driving and didn't realize it was a tire issue; she only heard a loud rumbling. She said the truck handled fine with the blown tire.

All the truck and trailer tires looked fine and I didn't find the blown tire until I thumped on each one. At this point I haven't examined the tire but did see a large slice of sidewall missing from the inside-facing side.

Glad we have a dually as things could have been drastically different with a SRW. I imagine the blown tire would have dropped onto the rim and perhaps a handling issue would have ensued with 18k of trailer (3,500 on the pin).

I wonder why the story isn't more like:

We were returning from San Diego this afternoon when the inside dually let go on Interstate 8. Wife was driving and heard a loud rumbling. The truck started swerving frantically and she almost lost control on the next curve. We immediately realized our truck had become severely handicapped as it performed more like a SRW.:)

[blofgren]

OP, my comments regarding weight weren't directed at you; they were directed at the posters who posted all of the ridiculous reasons not to have a DRW truck and that a SRW is just as good. I have a DRW as well and fully understand and agree with your original post.

[azdryheat]

OP here. I can't believe I have to spell this out to the over-weight crowd but here goes: I was no-where near my max weight in any regard. Pin weight is 3500# (CAT), truck payload is 4,931# (door sticker). CAT says I have 7400# on my rear axle, well under max of 9375# GAWR. Chevy says my max 5th towing weight is 22,550#, well over my trailer's 19,000# GVWR. Lightly loaded I am 16,600# (CAT). We were lightly loaded yesterday, only bicycles in the garage, empty tanks except for some water, end of trip so most food/beverage were gone.

Michelin's were new last Jan and have 11,000 miles on them. I was asleep and wife woke me to loud rumbling sound that had just started. I didn't know it was a tire as there was no bang and Interstate 8 is a very noisy road. We pulled over anyway to investigate.

My truck is top-of-the-line LTZ but TPMS was not available, as it was on my previous 2500. My Michelins are rated for 3085# single and 2885# dual. If my math is correct, there was half of 7400# on the single tire or 3700#, which is 615# over the single rating, which it had become. I'm not going to worry about 615# for the short duration that it was.

I found nothing in the tread to show a cause for the blow out and Discount gave me a free new tire. Funny thing is I'm more concerned with blowing a trailer tire and haven't given the truck's tires much thought. Thanks for all the replies.

[blofgren]

RAS43 wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Training wheel envy as usual.

Exactly. It always amazes me with the bunk people come up with to justify towing over their truck's ratings. :R

And it amazes me how many people automatically believe someone is overloaded because they don't t have the same setup as theirs. I have weight tickets, do you? And I tow doubles too!

Yes I have weight tickets that show I'm under all of my ratings which I feel is important towing a 16k fiver with 4k lbs pin weight.

[RAS43]

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Training wheel envy as usual.

Exactly. It always amazes me with the bunk people come up with to justify towing over their truck's ratings. :R

And it amazes me how many people automatically believe someone is overloaded because they don't t have the same setup as theirs. I have weight tickets, do you? And I tow doubles too!

[blofgren]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Training wheel envy as usual.

Exactly. It always amazes me with the bunk people come up with to justify towing over their truck's ratings. :R

[Old-Biscuit]

Grit dog wrote:
^First, you talked trucks in general no OPs truck specifically.
Even still, sure it would be overloaded. Prolly was carrying 4000lbs all on its lonesome over there!!
Poor lil tire........pffft who cares.
Second, I qualified my statement to some of the reasons it may need changed, so yer generalizing again for the benefit of argument, lol.
Last, woukd you really do what you just said?
Dually, decent tires, lets say half tread or better, got 2 tons in the bed. Pop a tire, pull over 1-10 miles later, however far. Telling me you're going to put the spare on and drive straight to the next tire store and buy 2 tires?
1 to replace the one that committed suicide and another to replace the one that got its feeling hurt?

Like I said, must be a tire salesman.

Having it checked out is cool though. Not as drastic as buying a new one just because.
Cheers man!

Wasn't talking 'trucks in general' as I was addressing OPs blown tire on his dually

No not a tire salesman
Just one who understands how quickly an overloaded tire can be damaged

And having tire inspected inside is prudent IF one chooses NOT to replace that overloaded tire

Course only OP has a clue (possibly) as to how long it was run by itself (other tire flat), at what speed it was run, temp of tire, age of tire etc.
All factors that only OP can really have info on.

My advise was based on OP having a flat on dually and the consequences of running flat with 5rv pin weight of 3500#

So I stand behind my evaluation and advise to OP

I wasn't advising YOU on anything.

[timdan94]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Glad everything worked out for you. But I have a few questions.

One, are 3500 and up trucks with DRW exempt from the tire pressure motoring systems? If not why didn't your DW say the warning on the dash? If any of my tires are under 34 psi a warning chime goes off and the DIC puts up a warning saying "LOW TIRE PRESSURE" with the tire location.

Second, as was noted if you are running heavy and continue driving with only one of your dual's you had better replace both tires. You could end up buying all four rear tires if they are more than 30% warn.

Also those two extra tires do you no good if a front tire blows out, just saying.

Don

Anything over 10000 lbs does not require TPMS on them.