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โFeb-18-2015 09:10 AM
โFeb-18-2015 06:52 AM
One of the main points is that the people who post these weight questions here do not have "boots on the ground experience".
โFeb-18-2015 06:30 AM
jaycocreek wrote:
This is the problem in a nut shell!
To many rely on what's read not boots on the ground experience.If a person has ability and experience with both the tow vehicle and the towed unit he is good to go..He will know what works and what does not.
Please tell me what happens when you slightly over load a tow vehicle.Do the axles break/brakes quit working/rims bend or does the frame break or bend?What does physics say will happen...
Been there done that with all makes of tow vehicles and the short answer is nothing.
I would like to see a "break Test" The point a vehicle starts to give into the forces to be because I have seen some amazing things of overloaded vehicles and there failure to break and on wash boardy roads.
Almost every answer here is a guess that includes general percentages based on an average(I assume) but one shoe doesn't fit all!Hardly any answers are from actual experiences doing what the opp asked,just guess's or opinions but not experience of the same posted and it is like a broken record..Payload-Payload-Payload forget Towing-Payload and I ask..What happens if your maxed out or slightly over that number..Again..Nothing (from experience)
The roads are full of overloaded campers and most are with 3/4 tons and up and the local RV wrecks are of the same.I am not saying it is right or wrong..Just saying, it happens a lot..
โFeb-18-2015 05:04 AM
โFeb-18-2015 04:38 AM
โFeb-18-2015 04:01 AM
jaycocreek wrote:There is no number one factor
Owe but there is..
#1-The ability and experience to tow with whatever tow vehicle or recreational vehicle to said destination!
To often these days the new RVer is jumping in to towing large units blind without any experience towing or mechanical knowledge of tow units.
โFeb-18-2015 03:10 AM
TigerL wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading to a Grand Rapids TT with a UVW of 8348lbs. I drive a 2009 F150 shorted crew cab with a tow rating of 9500. Equipped with tow package. Hitch says 11,500. Need some opinions, am I pushing it. Thank you in advance.
โFeb-18-2015 02:51 AM
OP wrote:Are you planning on towing it empty without a battery and propane? The tounge weight alone at dry weight is 1085 if using 13% to calculate. Payload or gross vechile weight is usually exceeded before tow capacity is reached.
I am thinking about upgrading to a Grand Rapids TT with a UVW of 8348lbs.
โFeb-18-2015 02:49 AM
There is no number one factor
โFeb-18-2015 02:28 AM
jaycocreek wrote:TigerL wrote:
1191 Max passengers and load
That actually surprises me.While our tow ratings are basically the same the payload difference is huge from your '09 and my '08.
I try to stay out of these broken record type discussions with payload as the number one factor in towing.It's not!
โFeb-18-2015 02:24 AM
TigerL wrote:
1191 Max passengers and load
โFeb-17-2015 09:14 PM
โFeb-17-2015 08:18 PM
kaydeejay wrote:ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:Nope, Payload is GVWR minus DRY weight, no fuel.kaydeejay wrote:TigerL wrote:Not even close!
1191 Max passengers and load
You will use at least 500-600# of that with occupants, full tank of fuel, WD hitch and other "stuff.
At 1191# of payload you really do have a "Half ton" (Well, just slightly more but not much!).
If you plan to do more than very short local trips a MUCH lighter trailer is needed I'm afraid. You need a LOADED hitch weight around 600#, which translates to approx a 5000# GVWR trailer.
๐ Hi, it seems as though a full tank of gas is included and not part of the payload.
โFeb-16-2015 08:14 AM