Considering TH with challenging tow

[srl520]

Looking at giving up the TC for TH for the sand.
Problem:Towing with a GMC 4500 4x4. Stock box height is 69". Replacing the box for flat bed is a no go wife says.
So looking at triple axle 30-32' bumper pull.
Problem: Needing to transport Jeep which weighs around 3500lbs. Reading that is to much weight hanging off the back end.

So looking at older 5'er that is lower profile. Considering axle flip. Possibly adding 2-4" rectangular square tubing lift between frame and shackles.
I know that will raise the center of gravity and possibly be stability issues. I need to keep OA height under 14'.
What are the experiences from the peeps that have tried to over come this problem?

[Bedlam]

srl520 wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I love my TC and I have many uses for it. But, call me a sissy. I hate the cold. So TC works great when weather is warm and suitable to sit out side and relax. But I am wanting to go camping in the winter months and am not comfortable sitting in the bench seat around the kitchen table. I want a recliner (couch) that I can sit inside read, watch move and be comfortable.
Oh would I ever love to own a TC with a rear slide reclining couch. Thats the ticket. But I can't touch one of those for less than $15,000.

Can't justify that much money right now, when there are so many other 5ers and pull behinds for what I thought may work for around $10,000.

Maybe in 10yrs I will be able to justify a double or triple slid. I need more space.

By the way, I notice you have a very nice set up.

Pick up an enclosed trailer and turn it into a man cave. Get one 24-28' long and you can throw in a real recliner with a flat panel TV and a base board heater while still fitting your Jeep and spare parts. If you want to spend more, toss an A/C on the roof and have a couple of windows cut out.

I haul extra water, fuel and LPG in my trailer so I can dry camp longer than most TC's would allow. I also have a solar array in the trailer to keep the batteries up.

[srl520]

Goose Neck for $5000 and Camper $5000.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

All that combination of nearly impossible requirements, AND a budget of only 10K to make it all happen...?? yeah... good luck with that.

Stick the truck camper and jeep on any used gooseneck trailer you can find and and feel lucky.

[srl520]

Don't get me wrong. I love my TC and I have many uses for it. But, call me a sissy. I hate the cold. So TC works great when weather is warm and suitable to sit out side and relax. But I am wanting to go camping in the winter months and am not comfortable sitting in the bench seat around the kitchen table. I want a recliner (couch) that I can sit inside read, watch move and be comfortable.
Oh would I ever love to own a TC with a rear slide reclining couch. Thats the ticket. But I can't touch one of those for less than $15,000.

Can't justify that much money right now, when there are so many other 5ers and pull behinds for what I thought may work for around $10,000.

Maybe in 10yrs I will be able to justify a double or triple slid. I need more space.

By the way, I notice you have a very nice set up.

[Bedlam]

Why will you not tow behind your truck and TC? My enclosed trailer carries all kinds of toys.

[srl520]

The goose neck flat bed with camper on the front is looking pretty good. There were some pretty nice setups on the pirate4x4.com site

[SoCalDesertRid1]

Truck camper on front half of a gooseneck flat bed tandem/dually or tripple/single axle trailer, with Jeep loaded on rear half of trailer, makes the most sense, financially and logistically. 🙂

Next best solution is get rid of dumb wife and flimsy pickup bed, put on flat bed and pull any fifth wheel you like, with no need to modify the trailer.

[huron52]

I know this isn't what you are looking for but this guy was in Moab this past year. He had a 4 seater side by side in it.

[big_buford]

Santek

[deltabravo]

I haven't found a toy hauler with a garage area long enough to put a Jeep in, nor a ramp strong enough to support the weight of a Jeep, nor the floor structure to support the weight of a Jeep.

[srl520]

Steve O Reno wrote:

dougford wrote:
Keep your truck camper. Buy a big goose neck trailer. Put truck camper on it. Haul Jeep behind camper.

I saw a couple of these setups last weekend at an OHV park here in Texas. Wish I had taken pictures. One guy had around a 16-foot Airstream on his goose neck. It was awesome looking.

If you go to the pirate4x4 website they have a number of trailer builds taking a gooseneck flay bed and putting a 5vr trailer and using the rear 20 or so feet to hauler a jeep/crawler.

I just looked at a race car trailer with living quarters so a few options limited by $$

This is what I just started thinking of today. Can pickup a 38-40' flat car hauler and put a 24' travel trailer on the front. I have been looking around on the web today, but did not find anything.
I will go to pirate4x4 and check there.

[cwill925]

srl520 wrote:
Replacing the box for flat bed is a no go wife says.

I wrote several different opening lines to my response, but erased them because they may have been deemed "offensive"....:B

Anyway, “tell the wife” the right equipment is required to make a safe and functional set-up to have the 5 wheel that you want. Several upfitters make great looking hauler beds for your truck.

Look at this Wil-Ro. That's about how your truck would look with a hauler bed. There are many bed builders out there, check 'em out.

[Steve_O_Reno]

dougford wrote:
Keep your truck camper. Buy a big goose neck trailer. Put truck camper on it. Haul Jeep behind camper.

I saw a couple of these setups last weekend at an OHV park here in Texas. Wish I had taken pictures. One guy had around a 16-foot Airstream on his goose neck. It was awesome looking.

If you go to the pirate4x4 website they have a number of trailer builds taking a gooseneck flay bed and putting a 5vr trailer and using the rear 20 or so feet to hauler a jeep/crawler.

I just looked at a race car trailer with living quarters so a few options limited by $$

[discovery4us]

I would look into putting the TC on a flatbed trailer with extra length for toys or just pickup an enclosed trailer to pull behind and leave the TC on the truck. For that budget you can find a nicely outfitted trailer with utilities and TH features like the fold out couches, tables etc.. Use the TC for sleeping and the trailer to haul the toys and hang out in throughout the day.