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Putting Dish TV in my RV when I already have it in my home..

joeburnes
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Need some help that I haven't found in searching the forums.

Right now, in my home, we have a Hopper w/sling and 2 joeys for the bedrooms.

I am away from home a large part of the year traveling/working from my 5er. I tried to use the sling function but it isn't working out as Dish Anywhere has no real way to turn down the quality so you're not burning through a gig an hour or more of data. And, even if they could do so, many times, I'm in areas of poor cell coverage so lack of bandwidth means no tv. Plus, their genius engineers didn't incorporate buffering so if your home upload speed isn't that fast or waivers, you get sketchy playback of any DVR program you're trying to watch.

Keep in mind that I do not want to detach the hopper in my home and just take it with me as some people do. I want a "permanent" setup for my 5er.

SOOO, I basically want to get a dvr receiver for my RV and a dish.
In looking around, I'm getting a bit confused as there are what seems like a hundred different automatic satellite dishes and receivers so I can't figure out what I need.
What I do know is that I want at least 2 "tuners" in the receiver unit so I can watch one thing while recording one other.
I'm not dead set on having to have an "automatic" satellite dish as I've heard there are phone apps that help you line up the dish fairly easily.

So, what would you do if you were in my shoes?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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joeburnes
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alid wrote:
I would contact a Dish network Support team member on the satelliteguys webpage www.satelliteguys.us

You will have to setup a free account on this page and then go to this forum. dish forum for dish network questions.

There is a "sticky" with the information how to contact a DIRT member.. they are great and can answer all of your questions.

I'm not sure if you can get a receiver with 2 tuners but I have a VIP211k and it does have both over the air receiver and a dish receiver so I can watch one while recording on the other.

I believe that the new Wally receiver allows a usb drive to be connected to make it a DVR receiver.

Again the best help I have found is with the DIRT members of the satellite guys forums.


Thanks! Another friend referred me to that website so I'll be hitting them up next.
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TechWriter
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usersmanual wrote:

what does burning through a gig an hour or poor cell coverage have to do with dishnet sat Tv?

DISH Hoppers can "sling" TV programming via a broadband connection using DISH Anywhere technology

So if both your Hopper and a receiving device (like an iPad) were connected to a fast Internet connection, you can use an iPad app to view all the programs (live and recorded) from your Hopper on your iPad. I've done it several times, but typically when both Hopper and iPad were on the same WiFi network -- then you don't burn up broadband data.

Unless you're at a very atypical RV park, the campground WiFi would be unable to stream content from a Hopper.

If you're using a cell data plan, you would burn through a whole lotta data. And poor cell coverage wouldn't work at all.

Sling boxes like the M1 can work with a variety of devices, not just a Hopper.
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usersmanual
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joeburnes wrote:
Need some help that I haven't found in searching the forums.

Right now, in my home, we have a Hopper w/sling and 2 joeys for the bedrooms.

I am away from home a large part of the year traveling/working from my 5er. I tried to use the sling function but it isn't working out as Dish Anywhere has no real way to turn down the quality so you're not burning through a gig an hour or more of data. And, even if they could do so, many times, I'm in areas of poor cell coverage so lack of bandwidth means no tv. Plus, their genius engineers didn't incorporate buffering so if your home upload speed isn't that fast or waivers, you get sketchy playback of any DVR program you're trying to watch.

Keep in mind that I do not want to detach the hopper in my home and just take it with me as some people do. I want a "permanent" setup for my 5er.

SOOO, I basically want to get a dvr receiver for my RV and a dish.
In looking around, I'm getting a bit confused as there are what seems like a hundred different automatic satellite dishes and receivers so I can't figure out what I need.
What I do know is that I want at least 2 "tuners" in the receiver unit so I can watch one thing while recording one other.
I'm not dead set on having to have an "automatic" satellite dish as I've heard there are phone apps that help you line up the dish fairly easily.

So, what would you do if you were in my shoes?
Thanks in advance for your help!



can you or anyone explain what you mean about
Dish Anywhere has no real way to turn down the quality so you're not burning through a gig an hour or more of data. And, even if they could do so, many times, I'm in areas of poor cell coverage so lack of bandwidth means no tv. Plus, their genius engineers didn't incorporate buffering so if your home upload speed isn't that fast or waivers, you get sketchy playback of any DVR program you're trying to watch.

what does burning through a gig an hour or poor cell coverage have to do with dishnet sat Tv?

TechWriter
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Ed_Gee wrote:
To meet your needs, I suggest you do as Harley Dave suggested... use the Dish 612 receiver, or similar, if you need to pull in more than one channel at the same time.

I highly suggest that you simply add whatever receiver you buy to your home account as a second receiver..... it only costs $7. per month additional.


When you have a Hopper, I don't believe you can add a 612 receiver even if you buy it. I think you can only add a 211 or a Wally.

Regardless, even if you could add a dual-tuner receiver like a 612, what are you going to connect it to? The Pathway X2 or Tailgater won't play well with a dual-tuner receiver, so you would need an open-faced tripod dish like the 1000.2 or the rooftop Winegard Travler.

In this case, it might be better to just take your Hopper.
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Chrisatthebeach
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Ed_Gee wrote:
To meet your needs, I suggest you do as Harley Dave suggested... use the Dish 612 receiver, or similar, if you need to pull in more than one channel at the same time.

I highly suggest that you simply add whatever receiver you buy to your home account as a second receiver..... it only costs $7. per month additional. The only caveat to that is that when you are in the RV traveling and you notify DISH of your new location so that you will get the local channels, the home station will lose those home channels during that period of your travels. This is not a problem if no one is home watching the home TV.


Or do as I did for 4 plus years travelling for work and full timing, leave the home setup for the locals and use your rooftop antenna for the locals in the area you are in.
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Ed_Gee
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To meet your needs, I suggest you do as Harley Dave suggested... use the Dish 612 receiver, or similar, if you need to pull in more than one channel at the same time.

I highly suggest that you simply add whatever receiver you buy to your home account as a second receiver..... it only costs $7. per month additional. The only caveat to that is that when you are in the RV traveling and you notify DISH of your new location so that you will get the local channels, the home station will lose those home channels during that period of your travels. This is not a problem if no one is home watching the home TV.
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Big_Katuna
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I gave up moving the Hopper, Joeys and WiFi boxes back and forth so I bought a 211z and will soon buy Pathway X2 to replace the tripod.

$400 delivered.

The X2 can find eastern and western arcs and can feed two boxes.

The 211 supports DVR function but it is one channel at a time.

Now I can leave the Hopper at home grinding away.
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donn0128
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Find a local independent Dish contractor and pay him to come out and set you up. You will get some sort of tripod, a dish with associated hardware, coax cable all connected to your equipment. Once it is set up you will know how and what you need. Might cost you a few dollars more up front, but at the end of the day you will have everything you need without the hassles.

harley-dave
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Good Morning.. we use a Dish 612 DVR receiver in the RV and connect to either our Winegard Travler or tripod mounted 1000.4 sat dish. Rarely do we have to use the tripod dish as the Winegard does a pretty good job even under trees. When we do use the tripod mount it's easy to set up using the Dishpointer app on my phone. Just takes some practice to get it. Was a little frustrating in the beginning getting it right, But practice makes perfect! We can watch and record 2 sat stations at the same time plus get local OTA channels with this setup.

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Dutch_12078
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We have a Hopper w/Sling and a Joey installed at our Adirondack cottage, and another Hopper w/Sling installed in our motorhome. We use a tripod mounted triple LNB 1000.4 dish that I set up at each stop, and have both eastern and western arc LNB's for it that I interchange as needed for the best reception on treed sites. We have another pole mounted 1000.4 installed at the cottage. When we're traveling, I use the Dish Anywhere app to tell the cottage Hopper to record programs that we'll miss while underway for later viewing either with the app or when we return to the cottage. On the road, I change our service address as often as daily to get the local stations, which also changes them for the cottage where they often won't be received since it's usually outside of the spot beam coverage. That's not a problem though, since the cottage Hopper also gets that area's locals over the air. When we're back at our site at the cottage, I connect the motorhome Hopper to the permanent dish, making both Hopper's recorded programs available on either Hopper.

Setting up the dish at campsites rarely takes me longer than 15 minutes, including aiming. I use the DishPointer app on my phone to find the best location with a clear view of the sats. There are no portable automatic dishes available that work with the Hopper. Only the roof mounted Winegard Trav'ler or equivalent works, but besides the big bucks to buy one you're also much more limited by tree cover on camp sites. The Trav'ler only receives the Dish western arc sats automatically, although it can be manually dialed in to individual eastern arc sats.

All of our Dish equipment is purchased and on a month-to-month no contract plan.
Dutch
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alid
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I would contact a Dish network Support team member on the satelliteguys webpage www.satelliteguys.us

You will have to setup a free account on this page and then go to this forum. dish forum for dish network questions.

There is a "sticky" with the information how to contact a DIRT member.. they are great and can answer all of your questions.

I'm not sure if you can get a receiver with 2 tuners but I have a VIP211k and it does have both over the air receiver and a dish receiver so I can watch one while recording on the other.

I believe that the new Wally receiver allows a usb drive to be connected to make it a DVR receiver.

Again the best help I have found is with the DIRT members of the satellite guys forums.
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