Can You Pass Through States with Stay at Home Orders?

[HadEnough]

We are thinking of heading to our boat for the summer in the epicenter of the virus. Taking it away from there and quarantining ourselves on it for the summer.

We are in Florida and are looking at going to NYC.

Delaware, for example, has a stay at home order.

Can we drive through Delaware then store the RV in NJ or should we expect to be stopped? I don't understand how this all works for travelers as it's all worded to people living in houses.

[ExxWhy]

If I was the OP and concerned about catching the virus, the last place I would want to go right now is the New York metro area which has by far the most cases. Why not just hang out where you are for a bit.

I can say that there was a guy charged with violating the stay at home order here in Ohio locally and I can also say the guy went to jail. (See how juicy it is when I leave out certain details like the typical media report?) The rest of the story is he was arrested at Target for shoplifting about $800 worth of Apple stuff and they just tacked the stay at home violation on top since shoplifting is not an essential activity. I'm sure it will all be plea bargained away anyhow.

Did anyone happen to catch the news that the guy who did the study in the UK that stated 2 million dead in the US if we don't do anything has revised his numbers? You know, that study that triggered the whole world to go into lockdown? Yeah...... he says he may have made a mistake with his calculations and revised his number to 20,000, less than even a minor flu season. Headline news on CNN and MSNBC I bet. No?? This is a nasty bug, but not nearly as bad as we have been led to believe. The numbers are not following the worst case scenario many have been swallowing whole. It will be OK, this will pass and soon.

On a side note about the RV net crowd, just an observation. The ones most concerned and calling for the most strict solutions about the virus in this thread are the same folks who think we might only have 12 years left anyway. Hmmmmm

[Naio]

Denial and anger are the first stages of grief. We are all grieving the loss of the world we knew.

Remember, COVID is contagious for up to 14 days before a person has any symptoms at all. Stay home and away from the people who aren't being careful, even if they look perfectly healthy.

[TomG2]

One thing this virus thing has accomplished is to bring out a lot of opinions. Some quite goofy. Why will it hurt us to wash our hands and observe good hygiene for a few months? It may only save a few lives, but one of them might be mine. Or yours.

[Grit_dog]

And the answer to the original question from 12 pages ago is "YES."
This thread needs closed...

[Grit_dog]

You guys that are turning this into a political authority rant are truly off your rockers.
It's easy to get frustrated with the "mandates" that are in place and you have every right to not follow them, whether it's being rebellious just because you're still an ignorant teenager in an old man's body, (actually ignorant is the wrong word, it would imply that you don't know any better) or if you're responsibly policing yourself.

But none of you numbnuts you are spouting off are admitting that you're not even remotely smart enough to grasp any of the magnitude or gravity of what's going on, simply by your cavalier statements.

[1968mooney]

azdryheat is a pot stirrer. He loves to agitate posters that read his misinformed posts. He will also be the first to blame congress when he or his family get sick and can't find a hospital or a Dr. to help him. Karma will take care care of him so just ignore his posts.

[Lantley]

azdryheat wrote:
Fortunately in AZ and Tucson there are no stay at home orders. So far we spent a couple of days doing some non-essential RZR riding, I worked 3 days this week at my non-essential part-time job at the RV dealership, and we're doing a few days of non-essential camping/RZR riding next week. Basically we are not staying home and are trying to live the same life we would without this over-hyped flu bug.

One other thought: What authority does a politician have to force people to stay home? Inspite of this so-called virus emergency we still have Constitutional Rights to move freely about the US and to freely assemble. A governor or mayor does not have the right to restrict our movements. My daughter's family was in California this past week for a vacation and the governor closed the public beaches. Cops were posted to force compliance. Did the governor have the legal authority to do that? Hopefully, someone will challenge the governors actions as being unconstitutional.

I understand that there are perceived measures to fight this virus but the Constitution needs to regarded and We-the-People need to stand up to and fight politicians who insist on taking away our Constitutional Rights. If they feel they can violate our rights during this period they will violate our rights in other situations.

This is not about the constitution This is about saving lives
It maybe hard for you to grasp but people in NYC are dying.
Just like Italy the NYC health system is overwhelmed
THe fear is that unless we control the spread by staying put, other regions will have there system overwhelmed
You call it an over hyped flu but its not just about the flu
Once the hospitals become overwhelmed it becomes hard to be treated for anything else
If you show up at the hospital with an ailment other than the virus there is literally no where to put you No Doctors to treat you in a timely fashion etc. The medical system at NYC hospitals is collapsing. If the virus continues to spread other area health systems will also collapse due to virus cases Meanwhile almost in the back ground people continue to die.
So before you rush to the courts with constitutional arguments keep in mind the court system in MD is closed.
The entire state is closed as much as feasible.
I hope you understand it just no about catching the flu. It's more about spreading the flu Some can get it and have minimal symptoms while some will have devastating symptoms. As it spreads many will require hospitalization. We simply don't have the medical resources to handle the virus and everything else!
This would not be a good time to have a major ailment, because getting treatment maybe hard to do. But be forewarned the shut down is for real there are major areas of the country both rural and urban that are closed

[JIMNLIN]

Looks kike some folks don't get it and probably never will. COVID-19 crosses political lines every where.

[azdryheat]

Fortunately in AZ and Tucson there are no stay at home orders. So far we spent a couple of days doing some non-essential RZR riding, I worked 3 days this week at my non-essential part-time job at the RV dealership, and we're doing a few days of non-essential camping/RZR riding next week. Basically we are not staying home and are trying to live the same life we would without this over-hyped flu bug.

One other thought: What authority does a politician have to force people to stay home? Inspite of this so-called virus emergency we still have Constitutional Rights to move freely about the US and to freely assemble. A governor or mayor does not have the right to restrict our movements. My daughter's family was in California this past week for a vacation and the governor closed the public beaches. Cops were posted to force compliance. Did the governor have the legal authority to do that? Hopefully, someone will challenge the governors actions as being unconstitutional.

I understand that there are perceived measures to fight this virus but the Constitution needs to regarded and We-the-People need to stand up to and fight politicians who insist on taking away our Constitutional Rights. If they feel they can violate our rights during this period they will violate our rights in other situations.

[free_radical]

Whatever you do stay away from Mexico
the wall would be good idea right now with this careless behavior

https://youtu.be/o3z-MH-xxdI

[Crowe]

Per Gov. Sununu of NH no governor has the right to close borders. Even though we are now in a stay-at-home situation he has no plan to use the police to enforce the order and there is no real way to do so.

[magicbus]

To the OP. I know this sounds like a great idea, being isolated on a boat away from it all, but you will have interaction if you truly plan to travel all summer. You will need food, fuel, fresh water, and to dump your waste tank and trash. I’ve cruised from Nantucket to Florida and know how it works.

You can’t expect marina services so no fuel, pump outs or fresh water. If you hang out in a harbor such as Nantucket you can expect a visit from the Coast Guard because our harbor master will ask them to make sure your overboard waste dump is sealed. I am sure you will hit this in any protected harbor.

And then if you do get sick you will probably not be anywhere near good medical services unless you hang out near a big city which kind of defeats the purpose of your plan. If you end up in a small town needing medical attention you just add to the problem for the people who live there.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand why you want to do this, just don’t think it will Valhalla.

Dave

[HadEnough]

valhalla360 wrote:

HadEnough wrote:

Hard to explain but anything larger than a car is prohibited by ordinance. It's a very urban area. I've got away with it here and there but they weren't happy about it. And we need to leave it for the summer.

So storing it elsewhere or just taking the pickup are the only actual options. If all goes back to semi-normal, they'll be very upset I left it there.

Still probably worth a call. I doubt they are going to be going crazy on ordinance enforcement and if you have a decent relationship, good chance they are understanding.

Once things go back to semi-normal, go back, drop the rig off in storage and you can head back out to anchorage.

I'm not suggesting leave it without getting the OK first. Doesn't hurt to ask.

PS: We lived on our boat for 11yrs and if you ask nicely, we've always been amazed how accommodating people can be even if it's not strictly within the rules.

Yes, I've been actively and continuously (except when RVing) lived aboard and cruised for about 15 years too.

The thing is, they don't enforce the rules. The lgovernment has jurisdiction over their parking lot. They do the enforcement. Not a small town situation.

In any case, the virus exposure risk goes way up if we are making multiple trips to the marina. As someone with an underlying lung condition, I'm not willing to go back and forth on public transportation to move the RV a second time. Too risky.

It'll be more safe to just go directly into the boat and come back at the end of the summer if all is well by then.

The more I analyze the situation, the better the pickup truck only plan is looking purely from a safety standpoint.

[valhalla360]

HadEnough wrote:

Hard to explain but anything larger than a car is prohibited by ordinance. It's a very urban area. I've got away with it here and there but they weren't happy about it. And we need to leave it for the summer.

So storing it elsewhere or just taking the pickup are the only actual options. If all goes back to semi-normal, they'll be very upset I left it there.

Still probably worth a call. I doubt they are going to be going crazy on ordinance enforcement and if you have a decent relationship, good chance they are understanding.

Once things go back to semi-normal, go back, drop the rig off in storage and you can head back out to anchorage.

I'm not suggesting leave it without getting the OK first. Doesn't hurt to ask.

PS: We lived on our boat for 11yrs and if you ask nicely, we've always been amazed how accommodating people can be even if it's not strictly within the rules.

[CFerguson]

azdryheat wrote:
They've taken hundreds to jail for violating the stay at home orders. If I were you I wouldn't chance it. Bypass Delaware and any other state that will confine you for being out and about. Better yet, stay in Florida.

Wait, what I am reading is that many jails are releasing nonviolents from jail as fast as they can.
Gotta call BS on this one without link to something other than world net daily or snopes.

OP: please stay in Fla. Its much safer there for now.