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Is this bad?

thehippie
Explorer
Explorer
towing with this head tilt up at this angle is it bad?


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mich800
Explorer
Explorer
I wouldn't bother with the head tilt until the proper drop is done. Until the trailer is level we are just guessing what the WD bars will be like. We are also assuming the OP has the appropriate tension on the bars. For all we know they are way too tight for the set up.

jrp26789
Explorer
Explorer
I would flip the axles. Not really flip but put the springs on top. Perches for the springs can be bought at northern tool for a few dollars each. Takes about 6 hours total. If you repack the bearings while its apart.
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Ron3rd
Explorer III
Explorer III
Interesting that the trailer's owner went to the trouble of installing a WD hitch and then did it wrong. Someone will hopefully clue the poor fellow in.
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mowermech
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Yes, it is BAD!!
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Sport45
Explorer II
Explorer II
Yeah, the nose is definitely too high.

Need to get a lowering kit for the truck. ๐Ÿ™‚
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jerem0621
Explorer II
Explorer II
JIMNLIN wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
ScottG wrote:
I wouldn't tow it that way either. You put too much of a strain on the back tires and being nose high can easily induce sway.


If the axles are leaves, the spring equalizer will keep the weight the same between both axles.

The equalizer bar doesn't keep the weight on both axles the same but does keep one tire from carrying all the weight as the trailer rolls over obstacles or through potholes or across a ditch/over curbs/etc.

Its common for a trailer with that much nose high attitude to overheat the rear axle tires causing premature blowouts/severe wear problems/combo handling issues and tread separation but mainly sliding the tires/flat spotting on the front axle.


I thought that it was all ST tires fault!!!! :B

Who would have thought that TIRE LOAD could have ANYTHING to do with blow outs ๐Ÿ™‚

Excellent point BTW ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks!

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JIMNLIN
Explorer
Explorer
dodge guy wrote:
ScottG wrote:
I wouldn't tow it that way either. You put too much of a strain on the back tires and being nose high can easily induce sway.


If the axles are leaves, the spring equalizer will keep the weight the same between both axles.

The equalizer bar doesn't keep the weight on both axles the same but does keep one tire from carrying all the weight as the trailer rolls over obstacles or through potholes or across a ditch/over curbs/etc.

Its common for a trailer with that much nose high attitude to overheat the rear axle tires causing premature blowouts/severe wear problems/combo handling issues and tread separation but mainly sliding the tires/flat spotting on the front axle.
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TXiceman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Nose high tends to be more prone to sway and it will definitely put more load on the rear axle, possible even over load the rear axle.

The trailer needs to have the noose dropped by properly adjusting the hitch.

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ScottG
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dodge guy wrote:
ScottG wrote:
I wouldn't tow it that way either. You put too much of a strain on the back tires and being nose high can easily induce sway.


If the axles are leaves, the spring equalizer will keep the weight the same between both axles.


Only to a minor degree. Believe me, I've had these things dangling in mid air doing all kinds of repairs and I know how much they move. The amount shown in the picture will shift lots of weight back.

Unless you planning on dragging that off road , I would not worry about ground clearance...
Go with a drop down ball hitch... I had one on my very first 19' trailer and lifted 82 F-350... One like this - drop down hitch

and 1 of these - Adjustable head
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N-Trouble
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Explorer
I wouldn't go through the hassle of raising that old of a trailer. Just lower the hitch head. Everything should be level (Truck, trailer, load bars) when hooked up and loaded.
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dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
rhagfo wrote:
newman fulltimer wrote:
Just flip the axles put a lift kit bigger tires this can get interesting


X1/2

Rather than drop the hitch head, I would flip the axles on the trailer, this would level the trailer, and provide some much needed ground clearance.


And increase wind drag as well as raise the center of gravity! I wouldn't do it!
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dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
ScottG wrote:
I wouldn't tow it that way either. You put too much of a strain on the back tires and being nose high can easily induce sway.


If the axles are leaves, the spring equalizer will keep the weight the same between both axles.
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Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

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better than a good day at work!

ScottG
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Nomad
I wouldn't tow it that way either. You put too much of a strain on the back tires and being nose high can easily induce sway.