Question on Michelin LTX tires

[riven1950]

I have set of Michelin LTX M/S LT tires ordered for my 2013 f150 cc.

I have been reviewing some previous post and I keep seeing some folks mentioning a 70,000 mile or 60,000 mile warranty on these tires.

From what I can find the LTX M/S LT tires have a 50,000 warranty. This is the tire with 3415 lb capacity and 80 psi. The Michelin site says 70,000 miles warranty @ speed rating T and H, 50,000 miles @ speed rating R. Best I can tell R rating is for LT use. What am I missing or am I just over thinking this. Is this the same tire just rated differently depending on use? No tire expert here.

I don't want or need an all terrain tire so it looks like the Defender LTX M/S LT is what I want, at least I think so.

[atwowheelguy]

BenK wrote:
We all have our own experiences and many times with the exact same thing, but
with differing experiences....

Used to be a fanboy of Michelin's...but no more...not even on my
cars...they too cracked like thise

michelin Tire splitting



MichelinBikeTire MichelinCrack MichelinCracks

Sorry yours turned out like that.
Anything especially tough about the atmosphere or sun exposure in San Francisco?
My Michelins looked OK after 3 years and 74,000 miles in Georgia:

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[BenK]

We all have our own experiences and many times with the exact same thing, but
with differing experiences....

Used to be a fanboy of Michelin's...but no more...not even on my
cars...they too cracked like thise

michelin Tire splitting



MichelinBikeTire MichelinCrack MichelinCracks

[Desert_Captain]

"Michelin tires work very hard at making their tires sound like they are the best on the road but they won't back them up. "


That is absurd... Michelin recalled over 1.3 MILLION LT tires even though only a small number of defects were found. Keep in mind if you were the owner of the recalled tires you got a complete set of their newest replacements, mounted and balanced for free, that's right around $1,500 worth of new rubber.

Yep, I got the 6 LTX M/S's that came on my 2012 {2011 chassis}, Class C replaced with LTX M/S 2's. They all looked good after 16,000 miles but was happy to let Michelin step up and do the right thing just because their "might" be a problem down the road.

I had previously put LTX M/S 2's on my F-150 with excellent results. I've been running nothing but Michelin's on all of my vehicles for 40+ years and have NEVER had a tire problem. If you want to hate Michelin that's OK with me but try and get your facts right.

:C

[RAS43]

At least that one doesn't have sidewall cracking-yet! My 4 year old LTX M/S tires look like a dry lake bed at 27000 miles and Michelin says they are okay.

[atwowheelguy]

Itakethe5th2011 wrote:
Michelin tires work very hard at making their tires sound like they are the best on the road but they won't back them up. I had replaced my 245/75R16 load range E with Michelin. After a year the sidewall had cracks. After 21/2 years they looked terrible but Costco said Michelin won't replace. I called Michelin as a recall was on going but my tires were 2 sizes bigger than recall, even though they were manufacture at same plant and same time as recall. They told me cracking is not covered, only tread seperation or catastrophe tire failure (blow out), would they replace tire. I did not feel safe so I replaced them with USA made Cooper tires. 3 years and 40000 mile still looking good. I will never pay higher price for a Michelin tire that not even made in US.

Different experiences for different folks. My Michelin tires say "Made in U.S.A." on the sidewall. They have many manufacturing plants in the US employing over 17,000 people. I replaced the OEM Michelins that came of my F150 after three years at 74,000 miles at 4/32". Bought some more Michelins.

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[Itakethe5th2011]

Michelin tires work very hard at making their tires sound like they are the best on the road but they won't back them up. I had replaced my 245/75R16 load range E with Michelin. After a year the sidewall had cracks. After 21/2 years they looked terrible but Costco said Michelin won't replace. I called Michelin as a recall was on going but my tires were 2 sizes bigger than recall, even though they were manufacture at same plant and same time as recall. They told me cracking is not covered, only tread seperation or catastrophe tire failure (blow out), would they replace tire. I did not feel safe so I replaced them with USA made Cooper tires. 3 years and 40000 mile still looking good. I will never pay higher price for a Michelin tire that not even made in US.

[atwowheelguy]

2Macs wrote:
I had 6 16" Michelin LTX/MS tires put on my 2007 Chevy 3500 dually diesel on 8/14/2012 with 39,227 miles on the truck. The tires have a 70,000 mile guarantee on them. As 12/9/2016, the truck has 63,264 miles on it and the tires only have 4/32's of tread left on them. That is a total of 24,027 miles and the tires are worn out. The retailer I purchased them from is scheduled to replace them on 12/13 under warranty. Michelin no longer offers the LTX tire with the 70,000 mile warranty. My new tires will be the equivalent replacement with only a 50,000 mile warranty. Michelin no longer offers a 70,000 mile warranty on their tires. The cost to me was the mileage use equivalent.

There are several different kinds of Michelin LTX tires.

The Michelin LTX Defender M/S LT tires have the R speed rating and now come with a 50,000 mile tread life warranty. The LTX A/T2 LT tires with R speed rating come with a 60,000 mile warranty.

The other Michelin LTX tires that have the S and T speed ratings still come with the 70,000 mile tread life warranty.

That info is from the Michelin web site.

My Michelin Defender LTX M/S 265/60R18 110T tires (not LT tires) came with a 70,000 mile warranty.

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[2Macs]

I had 6 16" Michelin LTX/MS tires put on my 2007 Chevy 3500 dually diesel on 8/14/2012 with 39,227 miles on the truck. The tires have a 70,000 mile guarantee on them. As 12/9/2016, the truck has 63,264 miles on it and the tires only have 4/32's of tread left on them. That is a total of 24,027 miles and the tires are worn out. The retailer I purchased them from is scheduled to replace them on 12/13 under warranty. Michelin no longer offers the LTX tire with the 70,000 mile warranty. My new tires will be the equivalent replacement with only a 50,000 mile warranty. Michelin no longer offers a 70,000 mile warranty on their tires. The cost to me was the mileage use equivalent.

[JIMNLIN]

LTX is a P and LT tire line from Michelin so its important to know which LTX is being cussed or discussed.
LTX A/S
LTX M/S
LTX AT 2
LTX M/S 2
LTX winter
LTX energy saver
and of course older LTX lines still on our trucks that were discontinued.

My previous '01 and current '03 Dodge/Cummins came with the LTX A/S. The '01 had the older tread design at 84k miles when I sold it.
My current '03 had the newer style LTX A/S tread design and ran them till around 114k miles.
The A/S were very poor in ice/snow/mud so I went with Cooper AT and Bridgestone revo 2 all terrain type of tread.

[BobsYourUncle]

Great tires.
I put 6 of them (not the 2's, but the originals) after I wore out the rubber my dually came from the factory with.
I logged over 127,000 K on them which was about 800 shy of 80,000 miles before I replaced them with the same tire but the version 2.
Never a problem ever with them aside from a couple repairs where I picked up a screw on the road somewhere.
I exceeded the mileage warranty by a lot.

[jmtandem]

Previously coming from Toyos, I went with Michelin LTX tires. I am pretty confident they will not last over 50,000 miles perhaps as little as 40,000 miles. Disappointed in the tire life. Doubt I would purchase them again as they are way too expensive for what you get. They are also not that impressive in snow.

[riven1950]

fyi: I contacted Michenlin about the warranty. They said the 10 ply LT tires in my size ( 275/65R18 ) have a 50,000 mile warranty. They said the 10 ply tires have a " different mileage expectancy " than the 4 ply tires. The 4 plys are not E rated and they recommended the 10ply for towing due to stiffness.

I still plan to get the LT tires this week. Just curious about the mileage warranty. Reviews are overall great everywhere I look.

[C_B_]

I have run the LTX/MS-2 E-rated For Summer Tires.

Just replaced them with the Defender LTX/MS E-rated that replaces the MS-2. For next Summer.


For Winter I use LTX/AT-2 E-rated


Great tires as far as I'M concerned.


C.B.

[coolmom42]

Rating and warranty issues aside, the Michelin Defenders can have some drawbacks. I have them on my mini-van, and my tire shop had a terrible time getting one of them balanced. The owner there told me that they had a lot of balancing problems with the Defenders.

The tread has a long wear because it is HARD. The ride is not nearly as smooth as other Michelin tires, even in a heavier vehicle like a mini-van. It might be better on a truck, but I'm betting it still won't be as good as another Michelin tire. I had the Harmony line on my van before the Defenders, and the ride was MUCH better.

I recommend doing some reading and research before switching to them. TireRack.com is a good source of reviews and information on tires. If I had it to do over again, I would not buy the Defenders for my vehicle.

[Desert_Captain]

I suspect you have the LTX M/S "2's" not the old LTX M/S's which were the subject of a huge recall. I have run the LTX M/S 2's on both my F-150 and on my 24' Class C with excellent results (especially the free set of 6 for my Class C thanks to the original M/S's being recalled).

Both sets were E rated and came with a 70,000 mile tread warranty.

:C