Time to renew registration, $$$ ouch!

[Desert_Captain]

Just got the bill to renew the registration on my 06 F-150, $175 ouch! Seems high for a 7 year old truck but guess I just forgot the amount from last year. Got me to thinking, since most of the registration is based upon the value just how much are folks pay for these gorgeous new trucks that roll off the showroom floor at 40, 50 or even $60,000?

We only paid $10K for our (used), 08 TT so it isn't too bad but the new trailers, especially the big dollar fivers must be a serious hit and then there are the Motor Coaches, wow! What do they hit you for a $250K Class A? I guess if you have to ask you cannot afford it, certainly true in my case. No wonder some folks don't mind forking out $40 or $50 a night for RV parks. After the cost of insurance and registration that seems almost reasonable. :S

[KFS]

Ohio based on classification. I think it was just $65 to renew truck and they allow prorate of camper without penalty so we don't pay over winter when not using it.

Fifth Wheel was $27.

Not helping you though. Ouch.

[Stefonius]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Glad it is okay now to expand on the topic at hand! "Registration fees"

Hot Dogs! Horses! Tent Camping! Dog Poop! Ooh, look... A butterfly!

(Ahem!) Sorry... Back to "Registration Fees".

[rhagfo]

ChopperBill wrote:
Colo. 06 Bighorn $190 a year than traded it for a 11 Bighorn. $1350 first year. $1350 2nd year (Bought new in 10 so they considered it new another year. Thats almost $26 a week and its only used in AZ and WY! $1000 the third year. Sold it and bought an 08 $200 this year. They got rich off my 11!

ouch! Oregon, RV trailers are taxed by the foot, our listed 30' runs just about $200 every two years. The TV, and cars are $86 for two years, and in the Portland metro area DEQ test runs $19.

[FlatBroke]

Colo. 06 Bighorn $190 a year than traded it for a 11 Bighorn. $1350 first year. $1350 2nd year (Bought new in 10 so they considered it new another year. Thats almost $26 a week and its only used in AZ and WY! $1000 the third year. Sold it and bought an 08 $200 this year. They got rich off my 11!

[Rotzilla]

colorado, new TH, 34k, registration only, ran me $800 for the first year.
$44k ram ctd, expecting to be about $1k, for the first year. These do not include sales tax, sales tax is normally financed into the loan.

[Cummins12V98]

Minnie_Collector wrote:

wny_pat wrote:
But it all depends on the insurance coverage you have. Some states require a ridiculously low required coverage for a single person, all injured, and property damage. And some of us choose to carry extra coverage because of the low required coverage. And even going by the Most Expensive, Cheapest States for Car Insurance comparisons, it is still difficult to determine. I come right at the average in my state, but have coverage for two cars and the motorhome, which is not average, plus I carrry extra high liability insurance that is not required.

Based on the comments from Cummins12V98, I was comparing MY insurance rate in South Dakota to MY rate in Florida --- Exact same coverage, same limits. I was attempting to clarify for him that the combined total of MY registration fees and MY insurance is cheaper in FL.

Glad it is okay now to expand on the topic at hand! "Registration fees"

[tatest]

It varies from state to state, may include country and municipal taxes and inspection fees on top of state fees.

In Oklahoma, the registration fee for a privately used passenger vehicle (includes light trucks and motorized RVs) depends only on how long the vehicle has been registered in the state, sliding down from something around $100 for first registration, to around $40 after a very long time.

Neither value nor weight matter. It was formerly an ad valorum tax, but it changed.

Other classes of vehicles, you may pay personal property tax on value, or registration fees by weight.

It costs me more to park my car at the airport for a week than it does to tag if for a year. It costs me more to put 20 gallons of gas in the motorhome than it does to tag it for a year. I probably spend more per month to buy decent wine than I pay to tag any one vehicle. You have to keep these things in perspective or you'll go nuts over how your tags cost you more than someone else's tags.

[mowermech]

ONLY $175?
The registration renewal for the motorhome this month will be a little over $250.
But then, this year it is eligible for PERMANENT registration (11 years old or older), that's why it will be so high (approximately twice the annual fee). I will NEVER have to renew the registration as long as I own it!
Hmmm...
Perhaps, if I live long enough, eventually there WILL be a "free lunch"!

EDIT: So, today, I went to town and did it. $257.50, and never another renewal.
In 4 more years, I can do the same for the Jeep and the PT Cruiser!

EDIT, again: In the interest of being totally factual, I have to admit, the new registration is not exactly "PERMANENT"! According to the registration slip, the registration expires Dec. 31, 9999. So, it is only good for 7,986 years.

[Minnie_Collecto]

wny_pat wrote:
But it all depends on the insurance coverage you have. Some states require a ridiculously low required coverage for a single person, all injured, and property damage. And some of us choose to carry extra coverage because of the low required coverage. And even going by the Most Expensive, Cheapest States for Car Insurance comparisons, it is still difficult to determine. I come right at the average in my state, but have coverage for two cars and the motorhome, which is not average, plus I carrry extra high liability insurance that is not required.

Based on the comments from Cummins12V98, I was comparing MY insurance rate in South Dakota to MY rate in Florida --- Exact same coverage, same limits. I was attempting to clarify for him that the combined total of MY registration fees and MY insurance is cheaper in FL.

[wny_pat1]

Minnie_Collector wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Minnie_Collector wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Minnie_Collector wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

License it in South Dakota and save a ton of money. Real easy.

I don't feel like you save a "ton of money" in SD any longer. I just received my tag renewal for my Class A 2007 and it was $318 (last year was $268). It was $48 for my 12' enclosed trailer.

Not cheap any more!!! Florida is definitely less expensive for full-timers.

You have to compare insurance rates also.

Oh sorry, I thought this thread was about vehicle registration fees.:S

If you would like insurance info -- well, it was only $92 more to insure my rig in FL than SD and the tags decreased by $245. So I will gladly pay that additional $92 in insurance to save that extra $245 that I paid to the state of SD. $153 will pay for quite afew "brewskis" siting at my campsite. :B

So I say to compare Insurance rates also and I get slammed for doing that then you quote insurance rates......WOW!

So glad I was able to provide you with that information; it helped to clarify which state is cheaper. If there is anything else I can assist you with, please do not hesitate to ask. 😄 After all, isn't that what these forums are for -- to help out fellow travellers.

But it all depends on the insurance coverage you have. Some states require a ridiculously low required coverage for a single person, all injured, and property damage. And some of us choose to carry extra coverage because of the low required coverage. And even going by the Most Expensive, Cheapest States for Car Insurance comparisons, it is still difficult to determine. I come right at the average in my state, but have coverage for two cars and the motorhome, which is not average, plus I carrry extra high liability insurance that is not required.

[Minnie_Collecto]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Minnie_Collector wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Minnie_Collector wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

License it in South Dakota and save a ton of money. Real easy.

I don't feel like you save a "ton of money" in SD any longer. I just received my tag renewal for my Class A 2007 and it was $318 (last year was $268). It was $48 for my 12' enclosed trailer.

Not cheap any more!!! Florida is definitely less expensive for full-timers.

You have to compare insurance rates also.

Oh sorry, I thought this thread was about vehicle registration fees.:S

If you would like insurance info -- well, it was only $92 more to insure my rig in FL than SD and the tags decreased by $245. So I will gladly pay that additional $92 in insurance to save that extra $245 that I paid to the state of SD. $153 will pay for quite afew "brewskis" siting at my campsite. :B

So I say to compare Insurance rates also and I get slammed for doing that then you quote insurance rates......WOW!

So glad I was able to provide you with that information; it helped to clarify which state is cheaper. If there is anything else I can assist you with, please do not hesitate to ask. 😄 After all, isn't that what these forums are for -- to help out fellow travellers.

[wny_pat1]

PUCampin wrote:
If my entire extended family did not live in Southern California, I would have moved. Have had coworkers that had no ties leave. EVRYTHING is expensive here.

Sales Tax - 7.25% base, 9% in LA county where I live, some cities as high as 10%

Property taxes - Prop 13 helps, but since the properties are so expensive property tax is also high. My 1200ft track home on 7000ft land in the desert suburbs of LA cost me $454k in 06 and $5600 in property tax. It is now worth about $260k and even though the assessor reduce the tax, it is STILL $3800

Oh, our legislature is right now trying to ammend prop 13 so only a 55% majority is needed to raise property taxes instead of 66.67% They claim the 66.67% is too high to pass anything. BS! My community has twice passed school bonds (which I voted for) with over the required 66.67% because enough people felt they would benefit. The 66.67% requirement is supposed to be a check to keep stuff from getting rammed through.

Income taxes - 9.3% on anyone with anything approching middle class income and over 13% for high earners.

Auto Registration - partially based on value. 07 Expy $285, 01 Focus $95, TT $110

Insurance - 100/300 limits full coverage on the Expy, liability only on the Focus, liability on the TT. Both DW and I are premier drivers, I had 1 ticket 10 years ago, DW none, no claims, average milage driven, multi policy discount etc. $1650 per year (and I consider that cheap for CA)

Gas - currently around $4.05 with $0.382 of that state gas tax, which is SUPPOSED to be fixing our roads.

Electricity rates - SCE has a 5 tier system starting around $0.13 per KWh for baseline building to over $0.30 per KWh for tier 5. Baseline is set rediculously low, if you run the AC at all you are in tier 5. To keep my 1200ft home at 78 degrees in the summer costs me over $500 a month.

Yea, my roots are here, my family is here, but there is definately a tarnish on the golden state and I completly understan the exodus.

This thread has actually been interesting to see what stuff that you don't always think about costs in other places 🙂

Actually, except for the electric, it doesn't sound that bad. My electric, water, and sewer came to $125 total this month. But natural gas is close to $200 a month in the winter for heating, and low in the summer, about $15 a month. My 100,000 home comes in close to your $260k home for taxes. Would be higher but I get a bit of a break being a disabled combat vet. Our sales tax is a 3/4 of a percent lower. Homeowners insurance is very reasonable even with full replacement value. Auto insurance close, but covers 09 Focus, 13 Honda Fit, and the motorhome. But I do carry extra liability protection on that policy. My vehicle registrations are lower. Depending on where one lives in the state, our fuel is lower, with gas being about 40 cents lower. Our state gasoline tax is 25.85 cents per gallon, with other taxes being charged to the refiners and distributors. So your is lower, but North Carolina pays higher than either of us!!! And when considering other factors like crime and people, and beautiful scenery, I would not trade with anyone the location where I live. Oh, one other thing - we never had a housing bubble like you guys did!!!

[Desert_Captain]

PU Campin, I know what you mean. While living in San Diego (lived there 51 years), we bought a vacation home (condo), in Tucson back in 04 and after a full year of using it on a regular basis we knew we had found our long sought after retirement venue. Even with the triple digit summers we enjoy Tucson year round. We sold the condo and built our retirement home. By cashing out of our San Diego home we were able to pay cash for the new house and moved here in 2006. We figured out early that the key to retiring was not a lot of income but simply not much "outgo". Everything we own is paid for and we choose to live well albeit simply.

While we enjoyed San Diego the cost of living anywhere in southern California, especially San Diego, is ridiculous. As it is just a 6 hour drive and we still have lots of friends and relatives there we visit San Diego often. Gas is consistently 50 cents to a dollar a gallon more than Tucson. Utilities are about 40% higher across the board. Our property taxes are less than half of what you pay in San Diego. Last trip I went to the grocery store and found milk to be $4.50 a gallon and eggs were $3.69($1.88/$1.29 in Tucson). Fresh California fruits and vegetables are significantly cheaper here contrasted with San Diego.

If we won the lotto tomorrow we would never live in California again. The crumbling infrastructure supported, just barely, by its stumbling economy does not bode well for the Golden state. We do have to put up with Jan Brewer, John McCain and Jeff Flake but likely (hopefully), they are all on their last term. Every state has good and bad but for us, early 60's retired on a limited fixed income, Arizona is a pretty good fit, the camping is awesome in every direction and then there is New Mexico, Utah, Nevada etc.. The best part is whenever we get bored with Arizona we just hook up the TT and leave for a while. :C

[wny_pat1]

larry barnhart wrote:
We ordered our alpenlite's tabs online in February as we do each winter. T
his time we noticed a $5.00 add on for RV disposal.

chevman

A $5 fee for RV disposal?? Have heard that people in Washington state live all over in old, dilapidated, RVs, but.... And when they abandon them, the state is left with the disposal fee??? $5 certainly doesn't cover it, so it comes out of your taxes too. Wow!!!