โFeb-19-2016 10:55 AM
โFeb-20-2016 06:47 AM
magnusfide wrote:
NOTE about Gentle Leader: it does not work on dogs with a short snout as this one has. His dog is a Border Terrier Mix. He's already tried it (he didn't know about the disclaimer) and the dog had it off within 30 seconds.
Thanks all: I'm sending my friend a link to this thread.
โFeb-20-2016 06:28 AM
rockhillmanor wrote:4aSong wrote:
I'm sure there will be arguments on this subject but a dog properly trained will not pull.
No arguments here either.
TRAIN the dog. IMHO putting apparatuses like a strap across their face is ludicrous and inhumane......all because an owner won't take the time to train a dog. ๐
Simple training tip for at home that WILL show you just how smart your dog is. I have yet to come across a dog that this has not worked.
Put a choke collar on, 6 foot leash.
Pick two points fairly far apart in your back yard.
Start walking 'briskly' to the first point. When you get there just 'abruptly' turn around and walk to the second point. And repeat, repeat, repeat.
All the time DISREGARDING what the dog is doing. Do NOT look at them, do NOT talk to them just keep walking. The first time or so they most likely will run ahead of you or lag behind, out to the side, etc. Do not do anything about it, just keep walking back and forth.
I will guarantee you that in less than 4 times going back and forth to these points your dog WILL be at your side.
Most likely thinking you have gone crazy! But more importantly staying by your side watching you, to see what you are going to do next so he doesn't get yanked around. Interestingly 'his' decision. No straps around his face, armpits etc. needed.
Dogs are not stupid. They know where it is the most comfortable to be and after a few times will figure it out that, next to you, watching you, is the sweet spot on a lead.
Do that for a week every night and you will have a dog that doesn't pull on lead. If he forgets when you are out walking all you have to do is abruptly turn around and go in the opposite direction and just watch how fast he goes to catch up to you to where he should be! :C
โFeb-20-2016 05:23 AM
โFeb-20-2016 02:54 AM
4aSong wrote:
I'm sure there will be arguments on this subject but a dog properly trained will not pull.
We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
โFeb-19-2016 06:31 PM
toedtoes wrote:dturm wrote:4aSong wrote:
I'm sure there will be arguments on this subject but a dog properly trained will not pull.
No arguments, but there is a HUGE difference in how trainable individuals and certain breed are. It is great to get ideas on aids in training that others have found useful.
Most veterinary behaviorists recommend Halti type or the type that compress the chest or pull on the axilla (arm pits) like the sporn does. There are lots of good ones out there.
Doug, DVM
I agree. However, none of these tools will work WITHOUT TRAINING. As the OP's friend does not seem to be able to access training, these tools will be ineffectual at best, dangerous at worst.
Just putting any one of the collars mentioned so far (or any not yet mentioned) on the dog will not stop it from pulling, etc. They are ALL meant to be used IN CONJUNCTION with TRAINING in order to be effective.
The truth is that dogs will adjust to whatever discomfort the collar causes because they don't know how to stop it. They think it's just part of the deal so they continue on blindly.
Without training, the dog is thinking:
"you know when I'm out walking sometimes my nose gets yanked down or to the side - weird" - haltis without training
"you know when I'm out walking I start choking - weird" - choke chains and flat collars without training
"you know when I'm out walking I feel like there are sharp things poking in my neck - weird" - prong collars without training
With training, the dog learns that those things only happen when it doesn't follow procedure. Now the dog can use those sensations to remind it not to do that. Pull down on the nose, tightening of the collar, etc. - "oh yeah, I need to walk next to Smelly" "oh yeah, I'm not supposed to chase after the squirrel".
โFeb-19-2016 06:30 PM
โFeb-19-2016 05:17 PM
dturm wrote:4aSong wrote:
I'm sure there will be arguments on this subject but a dog properly trained will not pull.
No arguments, but there is a HUGE difference in how trainable individuals and certain breed are. It is great to get ideas on aids in training that others have found useful.
Most veterinary behaviorists recommend Halti type or the type that compress the chest or pull on the axilla (arm pits) like the sporn does. There are lots of good ones out there.
Doug, DVM
โFeb-19-2016 04:25 PM
โFeb-19-2016 02:08 PM
4aSong wrote:
I'm sure there will be arguments on this subject but a dog properly trained will not pull.
โFeb-19-2016 01:53 PM
โFeb-19-2016 12:39 PM
โFeb-19-2016 12:37 PM
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be
Douglas AdamsโFeb-19-2016 12:29 PM
โFeb-19-2016 12:11 PM
DutchmenSport wrote:
Get the paper back version of this, learn it, practice it, work with the dog, and in a very short time, you won't need any kind of specialty leash. The paper back version is less than $5.00:
Dog Listener: Learn How to Communicate with Your Dog for Willing Cooperation by Jan Fennell, Monty Roberts
We read it, and every dog we've had since has been a real champ!