โDec-12-2013 05:35 PM
โDec-17-2013 07:57 AM
wa8yxm wrote:westend wrote:
The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly. The over-pressure relief valve opens instantaneously and it is not slow. When they open there is a release of liquid propane and is it not a small release.
One question westland.. You say "The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air..
HOW DID THE AIR GET IN THE TANK?
During the initial fill the tank is purged, all air is exhausted into a storage tank from which the propane that gets out with it is recovered later.. There is no air in the tank to displace it is all propane.
The valve you are speaking of is the liquid overfill indicator valve (long form) when it starts shooting WHITE, meaning frost by the way (condensed and frozen water vapor from the air around it on the OUTSIDE of the tank) the tank is full.
THIS is the proper way to fill a tank, not weight, not till the valve closes, but till the spitter spits.
Chris Bryant wrote:
westend wrote:
The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly.
Not exactly correct- there should be no air in the cylinder to be displaced- the cylinder should be urged, and contain no air at all.
Sorry, you're right, I should have said "gas".
โDec-17-2013 04:41 AM
westend wrote:
The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly. The over-pressure relief valve opens instantaneously and it is not slow. When they open there is a release of liquid propane and is it not a small release.
โDec-16-2013 09:13 PM
westend wrote:RJsfishin wrote:The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly. The over-pressure relief valve opens instantaneously and it is not slow. When they open there is a release of liquid propane and is it not a small release.
I don't understand the tanks blowing up. All the valves are designed to vent slowly. Tanks cannot blow up if the valves are operating properly.
We had a bad event close to me a few years ago at the local farm co-op. A customer brought a 100 lb.. cylinder to be filled. Within moments of starting the fill, the tank exploded, killing the young guy filling the tank. The shrapnel from the explosion ruptured a nearby bulk tank and nearly burned the building to the ground. A couple of others were also injured.
The cause of the tank exploding was later found to be that the cylinder had acetylene in it at some point and the acetylene residue combined with the introduction of propane caused a reaction.
โDec-16-2013 05:56 PM
โDec-16-2013 05:35 PM
red31 wrote:eubank wrote:
- Filling by weight involves weighing on a scale.
- Filling by volume involves use of the "spew" valve. (It never involves simply filling by gallon.)
The OP's cylinder was filled by neither even though the spew valve was used.
The metered 7.6 gal is temp corrected gals. ๐ The OP got less.
โDec-16-2013 05:00 PM
eubank wrote:
- Filling by weight involves weighing on a scale.
- Filling by volume involves use of the "spew" valve. (It never involves simply filling by gallon.)
โDec-16-2013 03:39 PM
Chris Bryant wrote:Sorry, you're right, I should have said "gas".westend wrote:
The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly.
Not exactly correct- there should be no air in the cylinder to be displaced- the cylinder should be urged, and contain no air at all.
โDec-16-2013 03:28 PM
Harvard wrote:AO_hitech wrote:
It cannot be that dangerous to fill propane by something other than weight. You can't weigh the propane in a motorhome tank while filing it. ๐
Our MH LPG tank has a manual screw type vent valve that, when in a vent (filling) position, will spew the liquid propane at 80% full. There is no such feature on any portable LPG bottles that I am aware.
โDec-16-2013 02:42 PM
AO_hitech wrote:Harvard wrote:
Our MH LPG tank has a manual screw type vent valve that, when in a vent (filling) position, will spew the liquid propane at 80% full. There is no such feature on any portable LPG bottles that I am aware.
The "spit" valve in a portable propane "tank" does the same thing. It vents liquid propane when the "tank" is full, just as the permanently mounted ones in a MH do. The exact method they use use is slightly different, but the result is the same.
โDec-16-2013 02:38 PM
โDec-16-2013 02:32 PM
westend wrote:
The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly.
โDec-16-2013 02:17 PM
Harvard wrote:
Our MH LPG tank has a manual screw type vent valve that, when in a vent (filling) position, will spew the liquid propane at 80% full. There is no such feature on any portable LPG bottles that I am aware.
โDec-16-2013 01:48 PM
AO_hitech wrote:
It cannot be that dangerous to fill propane by something other than weight. You can't weigh the propane in a motorhome tank while filing it. ๐
โDec-16-2013 01:43 PM
RJsfishin wrote:The fill valve is built to allow the displaced air to exit the tank slowly. The over-pressure relief valve opens instantaneously and it is not slow. When they open there is a release of liquid propane and is it not a small release.
I don't understand the tanks blowing up. All the valves are designed to vent slowly. Tanks cannot blow up if the valves are operating properly.