2011 Chev silverado 2500 2962# capacity updated

[br549redneck]

Looking to purchase the above truck 2011 silverado 2500 ext cab LT diesel. Payload 3200# towing capacity 17,000#. I am wanting to pull a 28'-34' 5th wheel. Just guessing weights around 12-14K will I have enough truck? Anyone towing with the 2011 2500 ? This will replace the low towing capacity of my 2011 ram with the 5.7 hemi and 3.73. Thank you for any input you have to offer.
Mark

[br549redneck]

OK got the capacity sticker. Cant figure out how to post pic but the sticker says "should never exceed 2962 lbs "

[wintersun]

blt2ski wrote:
Power no issue, where did you get the payload info from? if from a brochure, the payload is probably less than that. If off the door sticker, then that payload is what you have.

Marty

Why make statements off the top of your head like this? It helps NO ONE.

My 2011 2500HD has the exact same axle and wheel bearings as the 3500HD trucks. Only difference is that my axle is rated at 6700 lbs. which is 200 lbs. greater than that of the 3500HD SRW. The rear axle weight of my truck is less than 3200 lbs. leaving a payload of 3500 lbs. in its stock configuration. I added SuperSprings to boost this to 5,000 lbs.

Then the limiting factor is the two rims and tires at the rear axle. With the 17" GM aluminum rims the load capacity for the pair is 7600 lbs. and I put on tires rated at 3750@80 PSI or 7500 lbs. for the pair. That provides a payload of 7500 minus 3200 or 4300 lbs. for the truck. I could boost that by going to 19.5 rims and tires which would have a rear axle load capacity of 8800 lbs. and still be under the load rating for the AAM axle and wheel bearings which is 10,900 lbs.

Payload ratings from all the truck manufacturers are calculated for each truck based on how it was configured at the factory. The same trucks but with different wheels and tires can have payload rating difference of more than 50%. Go to any dealer's lot and you can verify this in minutes and not rely on what you "think" is true.

[Ridgerunner29]

br549redneck wrote:
I have to ask the dealer to check the sticker the truck is 150 miles from here so just walking up and opening the door cant happen.

Get him to send you a picture. Then there is no chance of misunderstanding.

A good fried of mine has a 2014 2500HD Duramax. It is a LTZ Crew Cab 4X4 6'6" bed. The sticker on the door is less than 2300 lbs.

Mine is a 2012 2500HD 6.0 LT Crew Cab 4X4 with a 6'6" bed. The sticker on the door is 2822 lbs.

[br549redneck]

I have to ask the dealer to check the sticker the truck is 150 miles from here so just walking up and opening the door cant happen.

[APT]

No one buys the brochure truck. Just check the sticker on the driver's door with as equipped payload is enough for your needs. It looks like the one below and note what it was where mine says 2051. If you find 3200 pounds, then great!

[blt2ski]

br549redneck wrote:

APT wrote:

br549redneck wrote:

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload?...

no, 1500 pounds. GVWR goes from 10,000 to 11,500...

Vehicle Series Hitch Type Maximum Tongue Weight
2500HD Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1134 kg (2,500 lbs)
3500 Single Rear Wheels Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1360 kg (3,000 lbs)

What you listed from the owners manual is not payload, it's pin weight. As mentioned GVWR does up 1500 pounds, so payload probably 1450 of that. Extended cab 4WD diesel GM has about 2600-2800 pounds of payload. 2WD 300 pounds more. So if you have 3000 pounds of payload with 2500 pounds of pin weight, what about the 250 pound receiver and two overweight adult males?

SWR 3500 is my recommendation, but they are harder to find usually. Many people just plan on air bags and 3/4 ton because the power is plentiful.

Looking at the 2011 brochure it list payload of the 2011 siverado 2500 extended cab 2wd with Duramax 6.6L Diesel max payload 3205 lbs

The RED part is where your problem is, You are going by brochure weights. IF you get a striped truck, ie no options, then you may have 3200 lbs of payload. If you get power windows, you have lost about 30 lbs per door. Cruise you lose 2 lbs. leather bucket power heated seats, another 400-600 lbs! At the end of the day, an ext cab diesel with weigh between 6500 and 7500 lbs sitting there ready to work, depending upon the interior trim level.
At one time, there were two other posters with 05 dually dmax trucks just like my old one. One weighed 7200 lbs, it was a base model rwd, mine weighed 7300 lbs, an LS 4wd, the other was 7600 lbs, it was a leather pkg setup. That is 400 lbs difference in payload between them. NONE of them had the brochure payload amount, the base was still 2-300 lbs more tare, ie lack of payload vs the brochure.

Marty

[Mr_Beebo]

My 2500 has about 3100lbs of payload with the 6.0 gas motor. It is set up for a 5th wheel and would have not an issue with a typical 30+' fiver.

[br549redneck]

APT wrote:

br549redneck wrote:

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload?...

no, 1500 pounds. GVWR goes from 10,000 to 11,500...

Vehicle Series Hitch Type Maximum Tongue Weight
2500HD Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1134 kg (2,500 lbs)
3500 Single Rear Wheels Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1360 kg (3,000 lbs)

What you listed from the owners manual is not payload, it's pin weight. As mentioned GVWR does up 1500 pounds, so payload probably 1450 of that. Extended cab 4WD diesel GM has about 2600-2800 pounds of payload. 2WD 300 pounds more. So if you have 3000 pounds of payload with 2500 pounds of pin weight, what about the 250 pound receiver and two overweight adult males?

SWR 3500 is my recommendation, but they are harder to find usually. Many people just plan on air bags and 3/4 ton because the power is plentiful.

Looking at the 2011 brochure it list payload of the 2011 siverado 2500 extended cab 2wd with Duramax 6.6L Diesel max payload 3205 lbs

[APT]

br549redneck wrote:

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload?...

no, 1500 pounds. GVWR goes from 10,000 to 11,500...

Vehicle Series Hitch Type Maximum Tongue Weight
2500HD Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1134 kg (2,500 lbs)
3500 Single Rear Wheels Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1360 kg (3,000 lbs)

What you listed from the owners manual is not payload, it's pin weight. As mentioned GVWR does up 1500 pounds, so payload probably 1450 of that. Extended cab 4WD diesel GM has about 2600-2800 pounds of payload. 2WD 300 pounds more. So if you have 3000 pounds of payload with 2500 pounds of pin weight, what about the 250 pound receiver and two overweight adult males?

SWR 3500 is my recommendation, but they are harder to find usually. Many people just plan on air bags and 3/4 ton because the power is plentiful.

[br549redneck]

gmcsmoke wrote:
You do know there's more to payload than a trailer hitch but I'll use your info anyhow. A srw 3500 has a 3,000 hitch max yet still has a 1,000 pounds of payload remaining. How much does a 2500 have?

Ahhhh is see what your talking about. You dont know if you dont ask questions. So let me ask this. A coach with a rear kitchen would it have a lighter pin weight with the majority of the weight of the coach in the rear? Typicaly heavy kitchen items pots pans, food,counter tops,sink fridge ect?

[gmcsmoke]

You do know there's more to payload than a trailer hitch but I'll use your info anyhow. A srw 3500 has a 3,000 hitch max yet still has a 1,000 pounds of payload remaining. How much does a 2500 have?

[br549redneck]

gmcsmoke wrote:

br549redneck wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
a 2500 doesn't have that much payload. find a 3500 SRW

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload? my opinion plus or minus 500 lbs isn't going to matter. Your talking the weight of 2 grown male adults 500 lbs either way doesn't matter to me.

no, 1500 pounds. GVWR goes from 10,000 to 11,500

Vehicle Series Hitch Type Maximum Tongue Weight
1500 Weight Carrying 272 kg (600 lbs)
2500HD/3500 Weight Carrying 453 kg (1,000 lbs)
1500 Weight Distributing 499 kg (1,100 lbs)
2500HD/3500 Weight Distributing 680 kg (1,500 lbs)
1500 Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 680 kg (1,500 lbs)
2500HD Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1134 kg (2,500 lbs)
3500 Single Rear Wheels Fifth-Wheel Gooseneck 1360 kg (3,000 lbs)
3500 Dual Rear Wheels Fifth-Wheel Goose neck 1587 kg (3,500 lbs)
From the 2011 Chevrolet owners manual

[gmcsmoke]

br549redneck wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
a 2500 doesn't have that much payload. find a 3500 SRW

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload? my opinion plus or minus 500 lbs isn't going to matter. Your talking the weight of 2 grown male adults 500 lbs either way doesn't matter to me.

no, 1500 pounds. GVWR goes from 10,000 to 11,500

[Grit_dog]

br549redneck wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
a 2500 doesn't have that much payload. find a 3500 SRW

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload? my opinion plus or minus 500 lbs isn't going to matter. Your talking the weight of 2 grown male adults 500 lbs either way doesn't matter to me.

Yeah, unless you're talking about the different options w the new Rams, a 3500 has always been the same truck as a 2500 plus a couple leafs in the rear and different badges.
If going used, get whatever is the best condition/deal and figure on adding a couple leafs or bags, timbrens etc if your hauling a real load.

[br549redneck]

gmcsmoke wrote:
a 2500 doesn't have that much payload. find a 3500 SRW

Go to a 3500 SRW for 500 more lbs of payload? my opinion plus or minus 500 lbs isn't going to matter. Your talking the weight of 2 grown male adults 500 lbs either way doesn't matter to me.