Ford pickup sales down again others mostly up.

[buddyIam]

Ford pickup sales were down both year over year and month over month.

The GM twins were both up in the single didgits.

The Ram up 22% year over year 33% over last month.

Pickup sales Nov 1

[Fast_Mopar]

What a bunch of crybabies. One guy takes advice from a guy working at a counter in an RV dealership, another reports how many Rams he sees broken down on the side of the road. Yes, we all have our preferences, but grow up a little and recognize that GM, Ford, and Ram are building very capable HD trucks, the best they have ever built. All of them are great choices. I have spent more time than I should admit working on old cars, and if you want to learn about poor workmanship, I can show you examples from the 60's and 70's that truly are junk. In today's world, if your battery goes dead or you get a flat tire, you complain about the manufacturer. Sheesh!!!!

[JIMNLIN]

DirtyOil wrote:
and I see as many fords piled up in the ditches.. middle of the road... on the backs of flat decks....dualies with missing wheels(should never take on oil lease roads in the first place):R

Yeah one west coast LTL trucking outfit in the late '00s warned their owners and operators they would not take on anymore drivers with a 6.0/6.4 Ford truck.
It was costing the trucking company too much money dispatching another truck too pick up and complete the run because of a broke down truck.

[spoon059]

srt20 wrote:
When I worked for a towing company, most of the broken down trucks we towed were Fords. Most of the broken down cars were the cheap imports.
The most impressive looking crashes (most nasty looking damage) yet the occupants lived, were GMs.

Well when you sell the most trucks and/or cars, chances are that you will have a lot more "broken down".

Define "broken down" too please. Are we talking run out of gas, flat tire, involved in accident, dead battery? Because those are the main reasons vehicles are towed, and none of those indicate that the product is inferior in any way.

Nasty looking damage isn't necessarily an indication of great quality either. It just means that the vehicle is likely a total loss... not that its a superior or safer vehicle. Modern vehicles are made to crumple to absorb impact. Even relatively minor collisions can result in devastating damage.

[srt20]

When I worked for a towing company, most of the broken down trucks we towed were Fords. Most of the broken down cars were the cheap imports.
The most impressive looking crashes (most nasty looking damage) yet the occupants lived, were GMs.

[DirtyOil]

and I see as many fords piled up in the ditches.. middle of the road... on the backs of flat decks....dualies with missing wheels(should never take on oil lease roads in the first place):R

[FishOnOne]

DirtyOil wrote:
When I decided to purchase Ram, I was driving to a meeting when I was stopped at a red light, the turned green and the Ford said "nope.. not moving". I walked across the street to the dealer on the corner which happened to be a Dodge dealership. I was hoping someone from the service department could help me rescue my Ford from the intersection. While they had it in the shop, I killed the time looking. A salesman came up to me asked if he could help me with anything. I said "see that ugly red thing on the hoist?" "I'm looking for a new truck". I ended up buying one of the better looking and most reliable trucks they had, they bought my Ford(suckers). I bought a new at the time Dodge Ram CTD 3500 4x4. Have bought 3 trucks from that same dealer 2005 3500, 2012 Ram 1500 for the wife and now a 2013 Ram 3500. Would I buy another Ford... not on yer life! My brother has a 2012 F350 and I can honestly say .."he doesn't like it".. I told him he wouldn't! :W

That's interesting... 3 years ago I stopped on two different occasions to help out some fellow RV'rs who's RAM cummins powered (Or lack of power in these two cases) and one RAM pulling a gooseneck that barely made into the Bass Pro parking lot that lost a head gasket. Seen another RAM recently on I10 but already had a wrecker on the scene.

The only Fords I've seen in the ditch have been service and construction trucks working hard!

[DirtyOil]

When I decided to purchase Ram, I was driving to a meeting when I was stopped at a red light, the turned green and the Ford said "nope.. not moving". I walked across the street to the dealer on the corner which happened to be a Dodge dealership. I was hoping someone from the service department could help me rescue my Ford from the intersection. While they had it in the shop, I killed the time looking. A salesman came up to me asked if he could help me with anything. I said "see that ugly red thing on the hoist?" "I'm looking for a new truck". I ended up buying one of the better looking and most reliable trucks they had, they bought my Ford(suckers). I bought a new at the time Dodge Ram CTD 3500 4x4. Have bought 3 trucks from that same dealer 2005 3500, 2012 Ram 1500 for the wife and now a 2013 Ram 3500. Would I buy another Ford... not on yer life! My brother has a 2012 F350 and I can honestly say .."he doesn't like it".. I told him he wouldn't! :W

[Jayco254]

Yeah I know I get a little long winded sometimes so I should probably carry a soap box with me.

[v10superduty]

Dadoffourgirls wrote:


The important thing is to make a profit on vehicles.

As a sort of insider, In your honest opinion, who do you think is doing this the best right now? :h

[FishOnOne]

Jayco254 wrote:
When I decided to make my switch to Ford I was talking to a counterman at an RV dealership I frequent and told him I was looking for a new tow vehicle and was always a Dodge fan until my last one got me thinking about my previous ones. He told me see that Dodge Cummins in the parking lot that's mine, so my advice to you is buy a Ford they know more about towing than Dodge ever will. It was hard to break an old habit, but even though Ram builds the best looking trucks by far, looks don't mean reliability so I switched and I don't think I'll ever look back. Now if my only my wife's Ram will be a whole lot better than all the other Dodges I've owned. Last time we used her truck to tow the TT I realized that my Expedition 5.4 with 3:73 gears and 300hp will tow at least equal if not better on hills that her Ram 5.7 w/3:92 gears and 345 hp. I'm hope the newer Rams with 390 hp will do better but will they and how much?

Wow... :B

[Jayco254]

When I decided to make my switch to Ford I was talking to a counterman at an RV dealership I frequent and told him I was looking for a new tow vehicle and was always a Dodge fan until my last one got me thinking about my previous ones. He told me see that Dodge Cummins in the parking lot that's mine, so my advice to you is buy a Ford they know more about towing than Dodge ever will. It was hard to break an old habit, but even though Ram builds the best looking trucks by far, looks don't mean reliability so I switched and I don't think I'll ever look back. Now if my only my wife's Ram will be a whole lot better than all the other Dodges I've owned. Last time we used her truck to tow the TT I realized that my Expedition 5.4 with 3:73 gears and 300hp will tow at least equal if not better on hills that her Ram 5.7 w/3:92 gears and 345 hp. I'm hope the newer Rams with 390 hp will do better but will they and how much?

[Dadoffourgirls]

Ironically, it was a year ago that Ford was still building 2013 F150's to take advantage of GM's new model startup and offer huge incentives on the 2013.

Now everybody is finding the same excuse that GM had last year. So yes, Ford has a plant down and all others are looking to take advantage of opportunity.

The important thing is to make a profit on vehicles.

[Bird_Freak]

When it all comes down to it these sales numbers mean nothing. All the trucks are lumped in. Tow trucks to the little trucks for grocery getters that never had a hitch at all. But it doe's give yall something to talk about I guess.

[Grit_dog]

I love the Ferd vs Chev vs Ram arguments. They are all awesome or all the biggest pos. Just depends on the day. I have or had recent models of all 3 and even though I am more of a Ram fan they all are nice and will all get the job done more than handily.

[i2amanobody]

We tried to update to a Ford 2014 4 door 1/2T 4X4. It was a super nice rig. We currently have a F150 4X4 ext. cab in super condition with 36,000 miles on it. The problem? The dealership offered a insulting price on our trade, with a take it or leave it attitude. About $ 5,000 below average NADA. Our truck is in super, clean condition. I am thinking that maybe the reason sales are slightly down is due to dealerships being cheap on trade ins. Needless to say, we keep our 2010 and are quite happy with that decision. My 2 cents.