Aug-22-2014 10:28 AM
Aug-24-2014 11:26 AM
bguy wrote:
The only real conclusion here is that the driver lost control. All the rest is conjecture.
Aug-24-2014 10:28 AM
Aug-24-2014 04:47 AM
E&J push'n wind wrote:OMG, the bump again. :RRon Gratz wrote:E&J push'n wind wrote:I think we should not imply that "hddecker" was seeing things.opnspaces wrote:I tow with a Hensley too, yeah.., I did catch that but let it go. No, it is not possible unless something is bending or the shear bolts have let go in which case you'll have a mess on your hands. I'd like to hear how that is possible.hddecker wrote:Did anybody catch this post by hddecker? Not picking on you at all hd, just caught the part that your Hensley let the trailer get out of shape. I thought that supposedly wasn't possible?
I let up on the throttle a bit next thing I see in the mirror, backend of the trailer about three feet to the left of center.
Trucks going straight, a little tap to the brake controller switch and the trailer gets back where it belongs.
Sure was happy I had the Hensley Hitch that day.
It's entirely possible -- especially in a low traction condition as might have happened if you're driving in Canada at Christmas time.
It the trailer tires lose their ability to generate lateral force, there is nothing to prevent the trailer from swinging to the side -- makes no difference whether towing with a HA/PP hitch or a conventional hitch.
When "hddecker" let up on the throttle, the 4-bar linkage might have produced a "bump" event which resulted in the trailer swinging to the side.
Even with no "bump", the trailer still can swing if the tire/pavement friction cannot generate sufficient lateral force.
Ron
Ron, I've read many of your posts and I conceed to you as one who is very knowledgeable on the "workings" of these HA's and PP hitches. My appologies to hddecker as my statement kind'a "called him out" on this one. Even with your explanation Ron I'm still kind'a.., baffeled? In the demonstration Hensley gives in their video, it shows that the Hensley at the trailer end cannot move. However, as an owner of a Hensley, I too am familiar with the "bump" and as I've seen it explained, I do understand that. Hensley will have to perhaps explain that one. Anyway, I do see your point on this.
Ron wrote:Although I do believe the word force should be replaced with resistance.
It the trailer tires lose their ability to generate lateral force, there is nothing to prevent the trailer from swinging to the side -- makes no difference whether towing with a HA/PP hitch or a conventional hitch.
Aug-24-2014 02:31 AM
thomasmnile wrote:dspencer wrote:
I have to go now and buy a Freightliner to pull my 26ft Bunkhouse. :R
Are you sure that will be enough truck...........;)
Aug-23-2014 07:16 PM
dspencer wrote:
I have to go now and buy a Freightliner to pull my 26ft Bunkhouse. :R
Aug-23-2014 04:58 PM
Ron Gratz wrote:E&J push'n wind wrote:I think we should not imply that "hddecker" was seeing things.opnspaces wrote:I tow with a Hensley too, yeah.., I did catch that but let it go. No, it is not possible unless something is bending or the shear bolts have let go in which case you'll have a mess on your hands. I'd like to hear how that is possible.hddecker wrote:Did anybody catch this post by hddecker? Not picking on you at all hd, just caught the part that your Hensley let the trailer get out of shape. I thought that supposedly wasn't possible?
I let up on the throttle a bit next thing I see in the mirror, backend of the trailer about three feet to the left of center.
Trucks going straight, a little tap to the brake controller switch and the trailer gets back where it belongs.
Sure was happy I had the Hensley Hitch that day.
It's entirely possible -- especially in a low traction condition as might have happened if you're driving in Canada at Christmas time.
It the trailer tires lose their ability to generate lateral force, there is nothing to prevent the trailer from swinging to the side -- makes no difference whether towing with a HA/PP hitch or a conventional hitch.
When "hddecker" let up on the throttle, the 4-bar linkage might have produced a "bump" event which resulted in the trailer swinging to the side.
Even with no "bump", the trailer still can swing if the tire/pavement friction cannot generate sufficient lateral force.
Ron
Aug-23-2014 01:25 PM
E&J push'n wind wrote:I think we should not imply that "hddecker" was seeing things.opnspaces wrote:I tow with a Hensley too, yeah.., I did catch that but let it go. No, it is not possible unless something is bending or the shear bolts have let go in which case you'll have a mess on your hands. I'd like to hear how that is possible.hddecker wrote:Did anybody catch this post by hddecker? Not picking on you at all hd, just caught the part that your Hensley let the trailer get out of shape. I thought that supposedly wasn't possible?
I let up on the throttle a bit next thing I see in the mirror, backend of the trailer about three feet to the left of center.
Trucks going straight, a little tap to the brake controller switch and the trailer gets back where it belongs.
Sure was happy I had the Hensley Hitch that day.
Aug-23-2014 12:29 PM
opnspaces wrote:hddecker wrote:
I let up on the throttle a bit next thing I see in the mirror, backend of the trailer about three feet to the left of center.
Trucks going straight, a little tap to the brake controller switch and the trailer gets back where it belongs.
Sure was happy I had the Hensley Hitch that day.
Did anybody catch this post by hddecker? Not picking on you at all hd, just caught the part that your Hensley let the trailer get out of shape. I thought that supposedly wasn't possible?
Aug-23-2014 08:50 AM
Aug-23-2014 08:48 AM
gunner65 wrote:
I hope none of the arm-chair quarter backs around here never have an accident we can critique. Hope the family was ok (I only assume from the photo that they were not harmed)
Aug-23-2014 08:33 AM
hddecker wrote:
I let up on the throttle a bit next thing I see in the mirror, backend of the trailer about three feet to the left of center.
Trucks going straight, a little tap to the brake controller switch and the trailer gets back where it belongs.
Sure was happy I had the Hensley Hitch that day.
Aug-23-2014 08:13 AM
mileshuff wrote:
A good guess would be that this trailer is a 2010 Keystone Outback. Looks like one of the longer ones. Weight maybe ok as the larger 260FL weighs about 6500lbs dry but thats without options or cargo. My issue would be the length if towing on a windy day or with passing semi's.
Aug-23-2014 07:48 AM
Aug-23-2014 03:08 AM
gsmith31 wrote:
ok a one ton dully can do the same thing.http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rv+rollover+crash+i+40+nm&form=VIRE2&first=1#view=detail&mid=BDA277AF68337514F287BDA277AF68337514F287
Aug-23-2014 01:02 AM