what defines a 3/4 ton?

[philh]

If it's payload capacity, then why isn't a properly equipped F150 considered a 3/4 ton truck?

[badercubed]

Hell, my Canyon is almost a 3/4 ton with 1,470lbs of payload on the door.

[8_1_Van]

6 lug wheels on 1/2 ton and 8 lug wheels 3/4 ton.

[Hammerboy]

Grit dog wrote:
GMs new > 10klb 2500 rating is a bad thing kids.
Well it’s good for the weight watchers on the Internet but bad in the real world.
For the millions that use trucks as tools, keeping 3/4 tons at 10klbs allows everyone to have a HD pickup for commercial use without the layer of regulations that come with trucks over 10k gvw by the state and federal DOTs.
The cops around here don’t go out of their way, but they do ticket people sometimes or at least mention they could when someone gets pulled over in a 1 ton and trailer and no drivers files or DOT numbers.

I think you can order them with a 10k gvwr sticker. I'm assuming same truck just different sticker for this reason?

Dan

[Grit_dog]

GMs new > 10klb 2500 rating is a bad thing kids.
Well it’s good for the weight watchers on the Internet but bad in the real world.
For the millions that use trucks as tools, keeping 3/4 tons at 10klbs allows everyone to have a HD pickup for commercial use without the layer of regulations that come with trucks over 10k gvw by the state and federal DOTs.
The cops around here don’t go out of their way, but they do ticket people sometimes or at least mention they could when someone gets pulled over in a 1 ton and trailer and no drivers files or DOT numbers.

[danrclem]

I'm gonna put a 3/4 race cam in my 3/4 ton truck.

[Boomerweps]

Wasn't thinking this before, but you made me look. And consider.
My new 2019 F150 has a CCC of 1990#, so that makes it a 3/4 ton, almost a one ton!

[wnjj]

ShinerBock wrote:
Manufacturers use the terms externally with customers because most are ignorant to the vehicle class system and would not know what the term class 2B means, and even if you told them what it means they will likely still use the term 3/4 ton because most are resistant to change. They would rather keep doing what they always do even though it is incorrect instead of changing to what is correct.

I don’t think it’s just a matter of people not changing. While describing these truck by their class 2B, etc. accurately represents their GVWR it doesn’t tell you what model you have and that’s what people usually want to know. Depending upon the year, “3/4 ton” trucks have been in different classes.

You might argue that the class alone is misleading as it doesn’t take curb weight into account. As trucks have gotten heavier and heavier I don’t know if their cargo carrying capacity has really gone up that much (maybe more so in the most recent years). In the end, a “1 ton” will probably have more cargo carrying capacity than a “3/4 ton”.

I also suspect the if Ford called their trucks F2500/F3500 people may well just use 2500 and 3500 series to describe them all. Some already use 250/2500. Everyone knows that “1/2 ton” is 150/1500, “3/4 ton” is 250/2500, etc.

[PNW_Steve]

Me Again wrote:
On some trim levels of GM 2500s and 3500s, once you remove the window sticker no one knows what you have 3/4 or 1T, as they carry no model label.

People with the new GM 2500 may have a surprise at their state DMV registration office, when states figure out they can collect higher fees.

I recently bought a used Chevy 2500 and thought that the prior owner must have removed the badges. Perhaps it never had any?

[Cummins12V98]

Modern 3500/350 DRW trucks are limited to 14,000 GVWR. The trucks capacity is WELL beyond that now. BUT the licensing and insurance rates keep them within that number.

Simply math will tell you the trucks capability. My UNLOADED front axle weight is about 5,250# simply add the SAE RAWR of 9,750# to that. HMMMMM 15,000# how can it be that it's OVER 14,000 GVWR??????

So y'all that are on the "Sky is Falling" side when it comes to GVWR there are the facts.

Simply license that sucker to what the tires are carrying and enjoy the ride.

[Me_Again]

On some trim levels of GM 2500s and 3500s, once you remove the window sticker no one knows what you have 3/4 or 1T, as they carry no model label.

People with the new GM 2500 may have a surprise at their state DMV registration office, when states figure out they can collect higher fees.

[Terryallan]

BB_TX wrote:
1/2, 3/4, 1 ton. Those terms are obsolete and have been meaningless for years. But old habits die hard.

Exactly right. It is better if you just go by the manufacturers designation of F150, 1500, F250, 2500, and F350, 3500 series. Those will tell you which is the more heavy duty.

Most F150s, and 1500 series trucks have had more than 3/4 ton of payload for years. After all that is only 1500lbs. few if any (except diesel) F150s, 1500 series have only 1/2 ton, or 1000lb of payload.

[Lynnmor]

philh wrote:
If it's payload capacity, then why isn't a properly equipped F150 considered a 3/4 ton truck?

Because it is still a lightweight grocery getter? :W

[RobWNY]

Lwiddis wrote:
Why isn’t a 2x4 two by four inches?

They are if you buy them rough cut from a mill or from the Amish

[gbopp]

JRscooby wrote:
But I remember when somebody mentioned "Super Duty" you knew they where talking about a gas powered class 8 Ford...

And if you look back to the early 60's, they were talking about a Pontiac.

[harmanrk]

ShinerBock wrote:
...Most 3/4 tons are in class 2b which has a GVWR range from 8,501 to 10,000 lbs.

About a decade a ago, all 3500 SRW trucks were in this class. Now most 350/3500 SRW truck are in class 3 which has a GVWR from 10,001 to 14,000 lbs. There is no law that states a manufacture has to put a 250/2500 truck in class 2b, and they can put them in class 3 if they want just like GM. They can also put a 350/3500 in class 2b like Ford does.

The only point of contention here is that the F350's are class 2b. SRW are up to 11,500, and DRW well above that. Ford does over a 'paper derate' to 10,000 for the SRW, but that is to address the licensing and other government restrictions of being over 10,000#.

GM is certainly shaking things up with their new release, and pushing the boundaries that had become common. It will be interesting to see how Ford and Ram respond. I think for the most part it just show how they have derated the 250/2500 for a while now.