What I saw at the campground.

[falconbrother]

Every Christmas we take two weeks to visit family at the coast and travel down the coast. This year we spent a few days in Myrtle Beach. We were cruzing around the campground and I saw at least two people pulling what I consider to be big fifth wheels with F-150s. Not being critical but, it did cause me to wonder. Most people were pulling the same sized fivers with diesel trucks. What's reasonable and what's overkill?

[rhagfo]

JIMNLIN wrote:

Strabo wrote:
Lol, 2016 F150's towing large fifthwheel's. What's next, The Colorado?

Depends on one's definition of a large 5th wheel trailer.
I would 'spect some with a F150 would say under 10k was a large 5th wheel trailer....and those with a DRW would say a 18k-20k was a large 5th wheel trailer.

However this thread is another silly "look what I saw" with some silly comments.

Well Keystone makes several 5ers just under/over 10,000 GVWR,some just about 7,000# dry. One of those is just under 35'. I have stated many times I would much rather see a 1500/150 towing a long 5er than a long TT way safer even if at max ratings or slightly over as long as the tires are rated for the load.

[tinner12002]

I have a neighbor down the street that pulls an Outback 5th wheel with 2 slides with his F-150...looks like a little toy truck. He does however put the camper legs down when he's parked at his house. I'm guessing its a 32-34 ft camper.

[JIMNLIN]

Strabo wrote:
Lol, 2016 F150's towing large fifthwheel's. What's next, The Colorado?

Depends on one's definition of a large 5th wheel trailer.
I would 'spect some with a F150 would say under 10k was a large 5th wheel trailer....and those with a DRW would say a 18k-20k was a large 5th wheel trailer.

However this thread is another silly "look what I saw" with some silly comments.

[Strabo]

Lol, 2016 F150's towing large fifthwheel's. What's next, The Colorado?

[Mike_Up]

JIMNLIN wrote:
The newer 1500 GM trucks with the NHT tow package has a 7600 GVWR and a 4600 RAWR 3.73 gears.

The rear axle is actually 4300 lbs, not 4600 lbs.

Ford made the mistake of only offering the higher capacity rear axle as well with their Max Tow package previously.

On the newer 2015+ models, they put the higher capacity axle as standard on all their models regardless of which tow package.

I know on the F150 5.0L Crew Cab 5.5' bed 4WD model, the payload is 2100 lbs on all models with or without a tow package. It's specs are below:

GVWR = 7000 lbs
FGAWR = 3450 lbs
RGAWR = 3800 lbs
Payload = 2100 lbs
GCWR (9.75" 3.73 axle) = 16,200 lbs (Drops to 14,400 lbs w/8.8" 3.55 axle)

If you add the Heavy Duty Payload Package, the rear axle goes to 4800 lbs but it's a very rare option and you're even lucky if you can order it. Better to go up to a 3/4 ton.


The 1500 Silverado 5.3L Crew Cab 5.5' bed 4WD "NHT" model has 2120 lbs payload. None NHT drops by 360 lbs. It's specs are below:

GVWR = 7600 lbs
FGAWR = 3950 lbs
RGAWR = 4300 lbs
Payload = 2120 lbs
GCWR (NHT Pack. 9.76" 3.73 axle) = 16,700 lbs (Drops to 15,000 lbs with smaller 3.42 axle)

6.2L also needs the NHT or it's payload falls under the none NHT 5.3L Silverado. It's tow capacity will mirror the None NHT 5.3L Silverado though.


For towing heavy, you don't want anything less than the NHT package. Hope it's more readily available than Ford's 3.5L Ecoboost's Max Tow package. You almost have to order the truck to get that.

[JIMNLIN]

The newer 1500 GM trucks with the NHT tow package has a 7600 GVWR and a 4600 RAWR 3.73 gears. The engine could have been the 5.3 at 355 hp and 383 lbs torque....... or the 6.2 at 420 hp and 460 lbs torque ....all with 6 and 8 speed trannies.

And don't forget the '00-'06 1500HD trucks with a 8600 gvwr and 6000 rawr 6.0 engine 4l80e tranny and a 3.73 or 4.10 gears 10k+ lb tow rating and 3k lbs payloads.

Or a std duty 1500 with bags. :B

[falconbrother]

Im cleaning out my mototrhome to sell it so, I was out at the storage place today. I mentioned in an earlier post that a guy tows the fiver that's one down from my RV. I looked at the weight posted on the fiver (Rockwood) today and it's dry weight is: 8104. He tows it with a Chevy 1500 pickup truck that doesn't "appear" to struggle whatsoever with it. I assume it has the 5.3 V8. He backs up, connects the 5th wheel, pulls the chocks and he's gone that fast. The truck appears to be riding flat with no nose up from the tongue weight. Pretty cool I think.

[Mike_Up]

1320Fastback wrote:
A f150 ecoboost is LEGAL for 10,700 pounds and 1,400 pounds of capacity.

Not that I'd want to pull anywhere near those ratings with that truck.

2016 Crew Cab 4WD XLT 6.5' bed F150 is rated to tow a 11,600 lbs Fifth wheel and it has a max payload of 2,650 lbs with the Heavy Duty Payload package ,18" wheels, and Max Tow package.

My standard payload package F150 Crew Cab 4WD XLT has a delivered payload of 1890 lbs right on the Tread Act sticker and a 10,900 lbs tow rating WITHOUT the Max Tow package.

Yes, it's more capable than some 3/4 ton trucks from the past.

And legalities only come from what you are plated for or if you're commercial.

[Camper_G]

Walaby wrote:
People - you shouldn't be shocked at Tundra's pulling 5ers.. after all, it can pull a space shuttle!

Mike

Lol. Exactly. Dumb commercial to appeal to people who don't know any better. It was a dead flat road. Once you get the weight moving even a foot, inertia will help keep it moving. I always thought that was a joke. They have a truck like that tundra (a mock up) at Daytona and i almost had to makea comment during the track tour. Lol. .

[2112]

My setup is in my sig. This F150 has more payload than my brothers 2500 Duramax 4WD. You can usually spot the Max Tow or Max Payload F150's by their big, ugly side mirrors.

Here is the FW spec's. No issues going, stopping, grades, side wind, etc.

Works for us.

[blt2ski]

D.Stiener
Nice looking set up! That trailer is probably one of the BEST designs from a how easy it will tow. Aerodynamically speaking mind you! My old TT combo probably weighs same as that combo, but would take at least 10-15% more HP to move it due to a lower aerodynamic setup. A lot of folks do NOT take that into account. Ea additional 3 sq ft of frontal area, is like adding 1000 lbs of weight to the rig. you can also lower or increase the HP needed by 30% either way for lack of, vs better aerodynamics of the setup.
OH, You had one or two too many "img" in parenthesis in the link, along with one too many page links.

Marty

ps, banning shall begin in a few centuries! :B

[Walaby]

People - you shouldn't be shocked at Tundra's pulling 5ers.. after all, it can pull a space shuttle!

Mike

[Lumpty]

FWIW, the door sticker carrying capacity for my aluminum '16 F150 Supercrew FX4 with a 5.0 and the prior '11 F250 Crew Cab FX4 6.7 diesel are both just under 2000 lbs, 1984 to be exact for the new truck. I wouldn't tow a 5'er with either, but do have an 8,000lb car trailer that is depending on loading up to 1200 on the tongue.

Guess which truck shows less squat, spring bars cranked up the same number of chain links?

[falconbrother]

DSteiner51 wrote:

falconbrother wrote:
Every Christmas we take two weeks to visit family at the coast and travel down the coast. This year we spent a few days in Myrtle Beach. We were cruzing around the campground and I saw at least two people pulling what I consider to be big fifth wheels with F-150s. Not being critical but, it did cause me to wonder. Most people were pulling the same sized fivers with diesel trucks. What's reasonable and what's overkill?

Don't know which campground you were at but I spent the week between Christmas and New Years there so one may have been mine.

We were at Lakewood. We always stay at Lakewood. Tried all the others and just like it the best.