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Why don't the MFG's weigh them?

zcookiemonstar
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I always thought that the manufactures did not weigh all the campers because of the cost of having a scale big enough to do it. After seeing how cheep a four pad scale system cost I can only think they just don't want anyone to know how heavy they really are.

http://www.longacreracing.com/products.aspx?itemid=1785&prodid=7146&pagetitle=Computerscales%c2%ae+AccuSet+II%e2%84%a2+1100+lb%2fpad
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RWDIII
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my Palomino pop up is within 25 pounds of the posted weight.
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NEW 2015 F250 Scab 4wd 10000 gvw, 6.2 Scan guage,Garmin,work rites,3200 lb load,1800lb Palomino Backpack SS1200

maxum1989
Explorer II
Explorer II
Northern Lite is proud of the weight of their campers. Each one is weighed and posted inside as it leaves the line.
2008 Chevy 2500hd Duramax/Allison
2006 Wildcat 27 bhwb
2009 Lance 830 *Sold*
2011 Northern Lite 8.5 *Sold*

zcookiemonstar
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My point was not that MFG's should all use these scales. It was that the cost of weighing is probably not the reason most of them under state the weight of each camper.

wvabeer
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It is what it is false advertisement.
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2015 Camplite 6.8C
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zcookiemonstar
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Boatycall wrote:
mkirsch wrote:
That scale set is a toy for weekend warrior race car drivers. Now go price a real, certified, calibrated, industrial platform scale that will hold up to use in a production environment. Much more expensive.


And.... According to the very first line on the webpage, it wouldn't come close to being able to handle just my TC---

"Comes with 12" x 12" x 2¾" 1100 lb. capacity powder coated pads pads for lighter weight cars."

My TC alone is WAAYYYYYY over 4,400lbs....


That 1100lbs is per pad. 4 pads. 4x1100= 4400lbs. These were there cheapest scales.

zcookiemonstar
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mkirsch wrote:
That scale set is a toy for weekend warrior race car drivers. Now go price a real, certified, calibrated, industrial platform scale that will hold up to use in a production environment. Much more expensive.

Cost is more of a factor than you give it credit for. Having plausible deniability is a happy bonus for the liability attorneys.

We just haven't had someone with deep enough pockets take the industry on, and we probably never will. The rare person that is hurt by these practices blames themselves, doesn't live to tell about it, or doesn't have the resources to go after the industry in a way that will cause them to change how they do business.


This scale was just an example they make more heavy duty scales like this. Yes they cost more but for a company that wants to charge forty thousand plus for one new camper a few thousand on a scale should not be a problem.

bighatnohorse
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2BLAZERS wrote:

Would be real education to weigh someones pickup empty, add the tie downs and Superhitch, etc...


Been there, got the T-shirt:

  • 8900 pounds - one person, full fuel tank
  • Without Tailgate
  • Without Back seat

    With:
  • 48" SuperTruss
  • Four Fastguns
  • Four tie down brackets
  • Box of kitty litter
  • Two aluminum folding chairs
  • One aluminum folding table
  • On person
  • Full fuel
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billtex
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AMLRV (Adventurer/Eagle Cap) weighs all campers and posts ACTUAL weight as optioned inside camper.

I believe some others do also...NS maybe...
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2BLAZERS
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Explorer
If I owned a RV sales store I think it would be really helpful to have a scale to weigh everything for the customers or offer to take it to a local CAT certified scale.....

Would be real education to weigh someones pickup empty, add the tie downs and Superhitch, etc... than be able to shop and look at TCs knowing the sticker shows the true weight right then and there....

And one can do this pretty much by weighing their truck before shopping and a little web searching....
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2017 Stealth WA2916 Toyhauler
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mkirsch
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Kayteg1 wrote:
My 15,000lb flatbed was check by Highway Patrol with those pad scales.
But I can only agree about conclusion why TC manufacturers don't want to know how much those things weight leaving the factory.
When I was buying my Fleetwood, I check the net to find rated weight 3800lb,.
The first stop at scales with fully winterized camper did show 4200lb.


Not "those" pad scales.

The ones the DOT uses are much heavier duty, capable of 10,000lbs per pad.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

finsruskw
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Explorer
Shippers must have a weight on the bills of lading when they ship an item.

However, many times I think they use theoretical weights.
That's what I ran into many times during the past 40 odd years of over the road trucking flat bed and stepdeck freight. They fail to add the weight of any dunnage for instance. That's why I usually carried a few sticks of my own when loading steel bars and channels and/or coils which were sometimes on skids/pallets.

Many times I would be upwards of 2,000 lbs over the stated weight of the product as listed on the BOL, in which case I would request that it be changed or some mat'l taken off the truck.

When you are looking at an empty weight (tare) of 31,500 lbs and a shipment weight of 48,000 lbs, often times it would be one huge single coil of steel, there is not much wiggle room to be had, especially if you are low on fuel. Ask me how I know this!!

Obviously, 2 or 3 campers on a flatbed/stepdeck trailer should not be a weight problem, but still, the weights, be they actual or estimated, must be on the BOL's

Dave S.

Kayteg1
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My 15,000lb flatbed was check by Highway Patrol with those pad scales.
But I can only agree about conclusion why TC manufacturers don't want to know how much those things weight leaving the factory.
When I was buying my Fleetwood, I check the net to find rated weight 3800lb,.
The first stop at scales with fully winterized camper did show 4200lb.

Boatycall
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Explorer
mkirsch wrote:
That scale set is a toy for weekend warrior race car drivers. Now go price a real, certified, calibrated, industrial platform scale that will hold up to use in a production environment. Much more expensive.


And.... According to the very first line on the webpage, it wouldn't come close to being able to handle just my TC---

"Comes with 12" x 12" x 2¾" 1100 lb. capacity powder coated pads pads for lighter weight cars."

My TC alone is WAAYYYYYY over 4,400lbs....
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jimh406
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Explorer III
I'm not sure if it's true, but supposedly, Host used to carry a scale to RV shows to show how accurate their weights were. At the end of the day, I suppose it doesn't matter what they say it is though. It matters what you weigh after you have all of your stuff and your trailer hooked up if you have one.

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