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5th Wheel Leveling

Franzen0001
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Big Moe my new 3500 Ram with a factory hitch built into the bed has my 5th Wheel hight to high causing my rear of the trailer to be to low. It looks like I have no more adjustment on the King Pin hight. How do I solve this problem.
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SmittysRV
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Old-Biscuit wrote:
Lower hitch.....
Raise pinbox....
Adjust springs in shackles......
Flip axles.......
Cut off shackles. Weld square tubes on to frame. Weld shackles back on.

That's about it for choices to adjust 5vr height


Is the truck stock height? This is the only other option I see is to lower the truck if it is lifted. I had to do this even after flipping axles on our last 5th wheel. Now with our new one I have a new truck to tow it and there are no hieght issues. Good luck!!

jnharley
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They have 3 tires in each side but Moryde IS suspension has no axles.
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lillyputz
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Dutch & Di wrote:
Thank you for the link and the info. It does sound like a good alignment bonus but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
Our brand new 2014 2 wheel drive Ram sits as high as a 4 wheel drive giving us only 5" of clearance at the bed of the truck which is not enough. Dutch is investigating the different bolt patterns on our Mor/Ryde IS which would allow us to raise it, but according to Mor/Ryde gain only 1". He is also investigating another way to gain more clearance by using steel tubing between the chassis and the IS. That should give us 2inches or more of clearance. This would be very extensive and expensive work.
Has anyone out there done anything other than these 2 options? If so, what did you do? We have a triple axle Carriage
We had to leave Montana to beat the snow & cold so until we can get this taken care of, we are making sure we are on as level ground as possible when we make a turn.
Any suggestions will be appreciated. Di


Di,
Call Gary Wheeler at MorRyde. His #574-293-1581 ext.222. Cell 574-370-9135.He will be able to give you advise.
On the Lifestyle RV I special ordered with the I.S. suspension, MorRyde is adding 2 inch's to the system to give me the needed clearance.

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mudmaker
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Explorer
I really don't know if there are any changes in the 2014 ram rear springs, but on previous models you could remove a spacer block from under the rear springs and place it on top of the rear springs. Rebolt and you can gain about 1 5/8". Makes it easier to work out of my old (03) ram dually.
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schlep1967
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Dutch & Di wrote:
... but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
.... We have a triple axle Carriage

Now I am really confused. Your trailer has triple axels, but you don't have axels?
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tegu69
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Explorer
wandering1 wrote:
Put a lowering kit on your truck, don't screw up the center of gravity on your trailer and not have adequate steps by flipping your axles.

Do they make lowering kit for hd trucks.

Dutch___Di
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Thank you for the link and the info. It does sound like a good alignment bonus but I had forgotten that we don't have axles. We have IS suspension so this won't work for us.
Our brand new 2014 2 wheel drive Ram sits as high as a 4 wheel drive giving us only 5" of clearance at the bed of the truck which is not enough. Dutch is investigating the different bolt patterns on our Mor/Ryde IS which would allow us to raise it, but according to Mor/Ryde gain only 1". He is also investigating another way to gain more clearance by using steel tubing between the chassis and the IS. That should give us 2inches or more of clearance. This would be very extensive and expensive work.
Has anyone out there done anything other than these 2 options? If so, what did you do? We have a triple axle Carriage
We had to leave Montana to beat the snow & cold so until we can get this taken care of, we are making sure we are on as level ground as possible when we make a turn.
Any suggestions will be appreciated. Di
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wandering1
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Put a lowering kit on your truck, don't screw up the center of gravity on your trailer and not have adequate steps by flipping your axles.
HR

Old-Biscuit
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Dutch & Di wrote:
Did I miss something? I googled Correct Track but I didn't see anything about raising the 5th wheel. I'm asking because this is something we are definitely going to have to address. Could you or anyone provide a link that shows raising the trailer? Thanks Di

BillB3857 wrote:
Since not having knowledge of the "Correct Tract" system, I did a Google search. Surprisingly, it took me to a surgical procedure. Trying a search for "Correct Track" took me to a Lippert Components site. Looks like a reasonable fix for several problems.


LINK

The 'Correct Track' system allows for alignment of axles.
Due to it's installation (weld on bracket or bolt on) the spring eyes are mounted in the alignment bracket which is connected to the OEM spring shackle. That mounting results in a 2-3" height increase of RV.
The Kit is intended for alignment....extra height just comes with the design of install.
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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Dutch___Di
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Did I miss something? I googled Correct Track but I didn't see anything about raising the 5th wheel. I'm asking because this is something we are definitely going to have to address. Could you or anyone provide a link that shows raising the trailer? Thanks Di

BillB3857 wrote:
Since not having knowledge of the "Correct Tract" system, I did a Google search. Surprisingly, it took me to a surgical procedure. Trying a search for "Correct Track" took me to a Lippert Components site. Looks like a reasonable fix for several problems.
2015 Western Brown Pearl single cab Ram 3500 Dually. Aisin Transmission, Pace Edwards auto rolltop cover, DeBoe Slide Step, AMP Side Steps.
1996/2010 Triple Slide Carriage, Mor/Ryde Susp, Kodiak Disc Brakes, Big Foot Auto Leveling System, TST TPMS

wkswenson
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Depending on the height of your rig - keep in mind your overall height when making adjustments.
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BillB3857
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Since not having knowledge of the "Correct Tract" system, I did a Google search. Surprisingly, it took me to a surgical procedure. Trying a search for "Correct Track" took me to a Lippert Components site. Looks like a reasonable fix for several problems.
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dbbls
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Correct Tract will raise the trailer about 2 or 3 inches with the added advantage of aligning the axles if necessary.
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Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
Lower hitch.....
Raise pinbox....
Adjust springs in shackles......
Flip axles.......
Cut off shackles. Weld square tubes on to frame. Weld shackles back on.

That's about it for choices to adjust 5vr height
Is it time for your medication or mine?


2007 DODGE 3500 QC SRW 5.9L CTD In-Bed 'quiet gen'
2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
US NAVY------USS Decatur DDG31

RVER
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THAT is why it is best to match hitch and trailer instead of getting it from truck manufacturer.
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