โOct-05-2015 07:46 AM
โOct-06-2015 06:52 PM
โOct-06-2015 01:53 PM
myredracer wrote:
Another ST tire quality thread. Oh joy...
Without knowing the true and accurate history of external damage, towing under-inflated, towing in excess of 65 mph, etc, which is essentially impossible, there is no point in blaming the brand or place of manufacture. One problem is, when someone buys an RV with ST tires on it, nobody explains to them how they really need to be treated and it may not be until they go onto an RV forum that they find out.
โOct-06-2015 12:25 PM
goducks10 wrote:
According to those in the know, if you aren't towing with a dually and don't have LT tires on your trailer you're risking death or injury to everyone.
โOct-06-2015 10:56 AM
โOct-06-2015 10:48 AM
4X4Dodger wrote:ol Bombero-JC wrote:4X4Dodger wrote:
Sorry but the idea that Goodyears are bad tires is just unsupportable.
There is altogether too much superstition, Myth, misinformation and personal bias to say nothing of the wild unsupportable anecdotal accusations like the OP's about ST tires.
Hmmmmmmm.....superstition, myth, personal bias, and wild
unsupportable anecdotal accusations were put to rest - a LONG time ago!
The misinformation was ruled to be from Goodyear and their expert witnesses! (Sounds like you could have been one of them!)
The tires in question included Marathons.
(see 5th paragraph, under "The Human Toll").
SP Times: "Goodyear Kept Tire Problems Quiet"
GY rep, Chuck Sinclair: "In every case customers were at fault, etc."
Former senior trial attorney for the NHTSA Alan Kam: "That's so absurd, etc.".
For personal experiences, the following is a great long-running thread, which began in 2006 to present - from the Airstream forums....
"Goodyear Marathon Failures"
Lots of folks with *supportable* accusations - or GY wouldn't be repairing damage caused by their tires (to avoid further legal actions)...:S
Kinda like Russian Roulette, (but) - if you like 'em - run 'em!..:C
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You are a prime example of the misinformation I wrote about.
The article you cited was all about LIGHT TRUCK TIRES not ST tires. They are completely different designs.
So lets put the article in true context:
According to the NHTSA there were 11,000 (Eleven thousand) accidents in the US caused by tire failure in any given year.
There were in 2012, 254639386 vehicles registered and on the roads. YES thats 254 MILLION plus.
That accident rate is infinitesimal as any kind of meaningful statistic and what it really shows is how good our tires really are.
In 2010 Goodyear sold 37.5% of those tires in the US and they are the dominant provider of OEM tires for new cars.
So tell me please, these are the facts...how can any intelligent person claim Goodyear tires are not good?
You are taking one case and trying to conflate it to an entire company over all of the product line in complete contradiction to the facts and the real world statistics.
Thats Misinformation. Thats unsupplortable myth.
โOct-06-2015 10:01 AM
โOct-06-2015 09:01 AM
ol Bombero-JC wrote:4X4Dodger wrote:
Sorry but the idea that Goodyears are bad tires is just unsupportable.
There is altogether too much superstition, Myth, misinformation and personal bias to say nothing of the wild unsupportable anecdotal accusations like the OP's about ST tires.
Hmmmmmmm.....superstition, myth, personal bias, and wild
unsupportable anecdotal accusations were put to rest - a LONG time ago!
The misinformation was ruled to be from Goodyear and their expert witnesses! (Sounds like you could have been one of them!)
The tires in question included Marathons.
(see 5th paragraph, under "The Human Toll").
SP Times: "Goodyear Kept Tire Problems Quiet"
GY rep, Chuck Sinclair: "In every case customers were at fault, etc."
Former senior trial attorney for the NHTSA Alan Kam: "That's so absurd, etc.".
For personal experiences, the following is a great long-running thread, which began in 2006 to present - from the Airstream forums....
"Goodyear Marathon Failures"
Lots of folks with *supportable* accusations - or GY wouldn't be repairing damage caused by their tires (to avoid further legal actions)...:S
Kinda like Russian Roulette, (but) - if you like 'em - run 'em!..:C
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โOct-06-2015 05:28 AM
tegu69 wrote:
I don't understand why you didn't get the other tires with the higher load range in 3 years. You had to get the GY in 2012. 3 other tires and 2 GY = 5 tires.
โOct-06-2015 03:48 AM
โOct-05-2015 08:20 PM
ol Bombero-JC wrote:
SP Times: "Goodyear Kept Tire Problems Quiet"
ol Bombero-JC wrote:
...For personal experiences, the following is a great long-running thread, which began in 2006 to present "Goodyear Marathon Failures"
โOct-05-2015 07:12 PM
op wrote:
The tire only has like 12,000 miles on it so the tread shouldn't be so worn.
โOct-05-2015 07:01 PM
4X4Dodger wrote:
Sorry but the idea that Goodyears are bad tires is just unsupportable.
There is altogether too much superstition, Myth, misinformation and personal bias to say nothing of the wild unsupportable anecdotal accusations like the OP's about ST tires.
โOct-05-2015 06:21 PM
belfert wrote:
I bought Maxxis trailer tires in 2010 for my trailer. I even went with one load range higher to be safe. In 2012 I had two sidewall punctures in 150 miles and my only option for two new tires were Goodyear Marathons.
One of those Goodyear Marathon tires failed badly yesterday. The tread was worn all funny and the tire had a large hole in it with the steel belts exposed. I have TPMS on the trailer tires so they never ran low on pressure and I stopped right away when the TPMS went off. The tire only has like 12,000 miles on it so the tread shouldn't be so worn. The three remaining Maxxis tires still look practically like new with twice the miles on them. I don't see anything wrong like a bent spindle, bad suspension, or hot hub that would cause the tire to wear funny.
I may have hit something, but still, the tire shouldn't look like the tread is nearly gone with the relatively low miles. I'll see if my road hazard will cover a new tires. If not, I will be getting another Maxxis trailer tire.
โOct-05-2015 05:38 PM
Grit dog wrote:
For those defending GY Marathon tires, you're solidly in the minority!
Marathons for some reason are about the shattiest tire you can put on your trailer. For years it was , age, dry rot, China bomb or us made, etc.
Turns out they just generally suck and are a good way to practice road side tire changes and trailer fender bodywork!
I've only had 5 de-lam on me to learn my lesson! I'm a quick learner though. 3 in the same week same trailer!
Same results with no less than 4 friends on their boat trailers too. More than a coincidence.
Odds are high that your Marathkn will de lam especially if it's a few years old, even if it's in otherwise new condition.