Jalopnik.com editorial on RV Licencing

[ChooChooMan74]

Ran across this the other day.

http://jalopnik.com/you-shouldn-t-be-able-to-drive-an-rv-with-a-normal-driv-1636455795

[Bumpyroad]

mlts22 wrote:


This isn't to say some of Germany's laws are bad. In fact, some should be used here, such as having the yellow light come on before a green so one can wake up and get ready, to having to have supplies and a first aid kit.

Cr@p, I suppose some committee in D.C. will specify exactly what should be in this first aid kit. 1 dozen band aids, 1"x3", etc. then if you use one and get stopped before you can replenish, 3 points on your license. but we could adopt their speed limit, or lack there of on the interstates.
bumpy

[mlts22]

Germany's requirements work because you can get anywhere in their country without a car, which is impossible in most of the US. I see that on a lot of other forums, people from other countries who assume their way -must- work in the US. Well, if their ways have worked here, they would be adopted here.

What we need are fewer regulations not more. Instead, I personally think people should (and this is not a must) look at investing in drive cams. Enough people out there on the roads that will be happy to toss their cam footage up on YouTube for a DA or plaintiff attorney to look at, and it will put a serious damper on bad behavior.

If done right, the fear that someone texting and causing a wreck, with the video displayed in HD for all to see will do far more to stop the idiocy than almost any amount of laws passed would do, combined.

This isn't to say some of Germany's laws are bad. In fact, some should be used here, such as having the yellow light come on before a green so one can wake up and get ready, to having to have supplies and a first aid kit.

[Bumpyroad]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

down home wrote:
This nanny stuff has gotten way out of hand. Personally, I don't care what Germany requirements are. If the Nannys get their way you will have to be certified and permitted operate a fork and spoon. It is just about there now.
Evidently the nannys were never let out of their play pens as kids and Mother has to chew their food for them. If they would mind their own business wee would be far better off. Driving a semi doesn't require a masters degree either. a few miles of driving and a lot of backing up practice is all that is required. The bulk of Semi Driving Courses is about government regulations, driving time, rest time, log books, and so on. Nanny should take one of the courses. Of course She or he would be scared to death and wouldn't do it.
If everyone doesn't start shouting down the Nannies, or Porch Sitters you will be required to have a Nanny holding your leash 24/7.

I love this post!! ^^^^^ I wish they had a like button on RV.net. 🙂

I think x3 is a like button.
bumpy

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

down home wrote:
This nanny stuff has gotten way out of hand. Personally, I don't care what Germany requirements are. If the Nannys get their way you will have to be certified and permitted operate a fork and spoon. It is just about there now.
Evidently the nannys were never let out of their play pens as kids and Mother has to chew their food for them. If they would mind their own business wee would be far better off. Driving a semi doesn't require a masters degree either. a few miles of driving and a lot of backing up practice is all that is required. The bulk of Semi Driving Courses is about government regulations, driving time, rest time, log books, and so on. Nanny should take one of the courses. Of course She or he would be scared to death and wouldn't do it.
If everyone doesn't start shouting down the Nannies, or Porch Sitters you will be required to have a Nanny holding your leash 24/7.

I love this post!! ^^^^^ I wish they had a like button on RV.net. 🙂

[down_home]

This nanny stuff has gotten way out of hand. Personally, I don't care what Germany requirements are. If the Nannys get their way you will have to be certified and permitted operate a fork and spoon. It is just about there now.
Evidently the nannys were never let out of their play pens as kids and Mother has to chew their food for them. If they would mind their own business wee would be far better off. Driving a semi doesn't require a masters degree either. a few miles of driving and a lot of backing up practice is all that is required. The bulk of Semi Driving Courses is about government regulations, driving time, rest time, log books, and so on. Nanny should take one of the courses. Of course She or he would be scared to death and wouldn't do it.
If everyone doesn't start shouting down the Nannies, or Porch Sitters you will be required to have a Nanny holding your leash 24/7.

[PastorCharlie]

The article linked to in the OP is full of false statements and the author based his argument of those false comments. So first he starts with false comments and arrives at a facetious conclusion.

I suspect the Germans may need more regulations in their society than we here in the USA....

A piece of paper does nothing for the safety of the traveling public, a doctor has a very rigorous licensing but there are over 200,000 deaths each year in the US attributed to medical malpractice.

The issue is just another attempt to increase taxation on the people under the disguise of a false need.

[Bumpyroad]

rhagfo wrote:

john&bet wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
By the logic in a couple of these post there isn't a need for Semi drivers to get CDL either!!!

I don't like government regulations any more than the next guy, BUT being able to drive a 26,000# vehicle combination on the same license that is needed to drive a Yogo is a bit on the illogical side!

The Feds require that you have a motorcycle endorsement to ride a motorcycle, it seems illogical that someone operating a vehicle that weighs at most about 1,000#, needs an endorsement, and one that is moving 26,000# doesn't.

My guess that the reason there isn't the push for the RV license is that we just don't cause enough accidents or deaths!!

Having a class A CDL did not stop a semi driver from running his semi into the rear of another one all the way to his sleeper on I-65 last week. The accident closed the north bound lanes for over 6 hours. Oh by the way the driver was nor seriously hurt. How would you liked to have been stuck in that mess?

Well standard drivers licenses don't prevent car accidents either!

If you watched the latest ABC 20/20, they had a story on Trucking. Not the best reporting as normal now day a bit of a rating thing, BUT there was the driver calling in to his dispatch center from a Truck Stop reporting he was dosing off and needed to get some sleep. The driver was told by three different dispatchers to get back on the road! We all know this isn't the norm, but I am sure also this is not an isolated incident.

Don't worry, if you are ever in an accident while towing, the finger of blame will for sure be pointed at you because you were pulling a trailer.

well if you are towing a 40 ft Teton with a S-10 pu it might be your fault.
bumpy

[rhagfo]

john&bet wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
By the logic in a couple of these post there isn't a need for Semi drivers to get CDL either!!!

I don't like government regulations any more than the next guy, BUT being able to drive a 26,000# vehicle combination on the same license that is needed to drive a Yogo is a bit on the illogical side!

The Feds require that you have a motorcycle endorsement to ride a motorcycle, it seems illogical that someone operating a vehicle that weighs at most about 1,000#, needs an endorsement, and one that is moving 26,000# doesn't.

My guess that the reason there isn't the push for the RV license is that we just don't cause enough accidents or deaths!!

Having a class A CDL did not stop a semi driver from running his semi into the rear of another one all the way to his sleeper on I-65 last week. The accident closed the north bound lanes for over 6 hours. Oh by the way the driver was nor seriously hurt. How would you liked to have been stuck in that mess?

Well standard drivers licenses don't prevent car accidents either!

If you watched the latest ABC 20/20, they had a story on Trucking. Not the best reporting as normal now day a bit of a rating thing, BUT there was the driver calling in to his dispatch center from a Truck Stop reporting he was dosing off and needed to get some sleep. The driver was told by three different dispatchers to get back on the road! We all know this isn't the norm, but I am sure also this is not an isolated incident.

Don't worry, if you are ever in an accident while towing, the finger of blame will for sure be pointed at you because you were pulling a trailer.

[john_bet]

rhagfo wrote:
By the logic in a couple of these post there isn't a need for Semi drivers to get CDL either!!!

I don't like government regulations any more than the next guy, BUT being able to drive a 26,000# vehicle combination on the same license that is needed to drive a Yogo is a bit on the illogical side!

The Feds require that you have a motorcycle endorsement to ride a motorcycle, it seems illogical that someone operating a vehicle that weighs at most about 1,000#, needs an endorsement, and one that is moving 26,000# doesn't.

My guess that the reason there isn't the push for the RV license is that we just don't cause enough accidents or deaths!!

Having a class A CDL did not stop a semi driver from running his semi into the rear of another one all the way to his sleeper on I-65 last week. The accident closed the north bound lanes for over 6 hours. Oh by the way the driver was nor seriously hurt. How would you liked to have been stuck in that mess?

[dodge_guy]

Bumpyroad wrote:

D & M wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

D & M wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
well in MD as well as many states the same license is required for a yugo or for a 26,000 motorhome....

I have to differ with you on this issue Bump. Maryland does require a Class B endorsement for a vehicle over 26,000#. (It's a pound sign, not a hash tag!)

you could differ with me but you would be wrong. 😉
I said that the standard Class C license works for a yugo and for a 26,000 lb. RV. won't work for a 26,001 rv.
bumpy

C'mon man. I was only off by one pound.

I stand corrected.

it takes a big man to admit he is wrong.
bumpy 🙂

I`m glad I`m an average size man! :B

[Bumpyroad]

D & M wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

D & M wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
well in MD as well as many states the same license is required for a yugo or for a 26,000 motorhome....

I have to differ with you on this issue Bump. Maryland does require a Class B endorsement for a vehicle over 26,000#. (It's a pound sign, not a hash tag!)

you could differ with me but you would be wrong. 😉
I said that the standard Class C license works for a yugo and for a 26,000 lb. RV. won't work for a 26,001 rv.
bumpy

C'mon man. I was only off by one pound.

I stand corrected.

it takes a big man to admit he is wrong.
bumpy 🙂

[D___M]

Bumpyroad wrote:

D & M wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
well in MD as well as many states the same license is required for a yugo or for a 26,000 motorhome....

I have to differ with you on this issue Bump. Maryland does require a Class B endorsement for a vehicle over 26,000#. (It's a pound sign, not a hash tag!)

you could differ with me but you would be wrong. 😉
I said that the standard Class C license works for a yugo and for a 26,000 lb. RV. won't work for a 26,001 rv.
bumpy

C'mon man. I was only off by one pound.

I stand corrected.

[kcmoedoe]

Mr Porsche dealer gets my support as soon as they amend his legislation to include special licenses for high performance automobiles. They have statistically way more accidents than motorhomes. Hence why the insurance on one of his $100,000 Porsche's may run a driver $12,000 or more a year, yet that same exact driver can easily insure his $350,000 motorhome for around $3,000 a year.

[wa8yxm]

Should a regular driver's license be good enough to drive a 100,000 dollar plus Class A motor home?

Well, With his suspended (or Revoked) "Ops" (regular operators license) Joe booze bag can go out and drop a hundred or two on a getto beater and go flying down the road 90 MPH and crash into a mini-van killing the mother and children inside (See note below)

If he does he's out a few hundred dollars (plus fines, court costs and such)

I'm sitting in a hundred grand worth of ride you better believe I'm taking a whole bunch of care.

Promised note:
In the actual accident Joe Booze Bag (not his real name but it was his Blood Alcohol Level) was not driving a 200 dollar getto beater but about 20 somthing thousand worth of Denali SUV... The accident was less than a mile from Where I sang in teh church choir. And two of the children killed were students of our lead Tenor.

So I did not make the accident up.