The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread

[pritch272]

8/1/2010 edit: Thread renamed at the suggestion of the Professor.
Renamed from: Champion Inverter and Remote Gens Promo on CPE's web site)

3/22/2011 edit: Thread renamed ...
Renamed from: Official CPE 2000 Watt Inverter Generator Thread

3/23/2011 edit: Thread renamed at the suggestion of the Professor.
Renamed from: (Un)Official CPE 2000 Watt Inverter Generator Thread

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[MrRchitty]

Ok. What I meant was that the load would be split. 700 watts each. The idle while on eco mode begins to increase around 400- 500 watts. I am not a sound engineer, but, if you had 2 single cylinder engines running, the noise created from the intake and exhaust wouldn't occur necessarily at the same time. I don't have two to test together.


More on sound, doubling etc. I found this interesting.

[pritch272]

MrRchitty wrote:

No load, 23 feet away, exhaust facing away and on the grass. 51 decibels.


Microwave only. 1425 watts. 66 decibels.

With two Champs, load would be split and decibels would be less as well.

Would tend to think 2 running at x db each would yield noise of x+3 db? Isn't doubling of noise an addition of 3 db? Or is that just true for electronic signals? 2 running at 66 each (2850 watts, perhaps for A/C) would be 69 db?

[canadiankid]

thanks for doing the test

[MrRchitty]

No load, 23 feet away, exhaust facing away and on the grass. 51 decibels.


Microwave only. 1425 watts. 66 decibels.

With two Champs, load would be split and decibels would be less as well.

[Old___Slow]

IMHO, IF, CPE is hanging their hat on the Champion 2000i they won't be here long. Again, just IMHO.

[MrRchitty]

One question is whether it will run a microwave on the camper. I ran my CPE 2000i with econo mode on and it started and ran the microwave just fine. Linked is a video I made on youtube. If you listen carefully, you can hear my son's voice over the sound of the generator. I have included shots of the voltage during the test and the clamp meter reading. The figures work out to 1425 Watts. You are almost there for running watts. This is with the camper's converter turned off. It boiled a mug of water in just about 3 minutes from the tap.

Youtube video of microwave test.

[SplashDancer]

Mark, it's next week, 3/21st that it's on sale. Checked yesterday as i'd somehow thought it was this week.

[PrivatePilot]

As soon as the 2000i goes on sale at Costco on this side of the border (within the next week or two IIRC) I'll be buying one and will be doing a lot of experimentation. I'll be sure to chime in with what I discover.

Fwiw I have my fiver carefully load segregated so as to be able to work a generator absolutely to the edge of it's limits while still being able to do most of what I want with just a small genny. I also got a new 12v electronic charger in the fall that I intend to use instead of the cheapie converter when running on the genny.

I'm excited to start experimenting.

[Brent_and_Gina]

Folks, I've read quite a few pages of entries on this generator and a lot of off-topic and confusing type info.

Could those who have owned one or two of these for some time please chime in on what you think about this generator as a whole? Down-and-dirty please. Again, those who have used these for some time. Thank you.

[orionpaxx]

hey,
my set of gennys are used on this coffee truck, i am certainly not a "plant" just interested in the topic at hand. so far the gennys are holding up great.
one small issue i'm having is this, when i start them up initially i'll have to restart one a few times, trying to get them to sync, i get the overload light flashing. not sure if i'm doing something wrong during startup. anyone else encounter this
anyway, well worth the money.
i'm excited to see how they do in the summer heat.

pics of the truck are here...
www.prestostrangeo.com

Jay
Presto Strange O coffee

[Old___Slow]

PrivatePilot wrote:
Guys, little be it for me to suggest how things work here, but I'd sure like to see this thread get back on the topic of the Champion 2000 inverter. It seems it's drifted off on several tangents (Converters, and competing models, amongst other things) and I keep coming back to read the responses after getting the email alert...only to find out that the content has little to nothing to do with the Champ.

PrivatePilot (Mark)

AOPA talk, I learned to fly before I could reach the rudder peddles, guess that was good training for IFR flight? Anywho, the Champion 2000i/2000i's should be able to operate RV type stuff, (it is called a camping genset) like the converter/chargers, A/C's and microwave. If this talk is out of bounds, we are pretty much limited to 'promo ads only' and this is a forum. I hope CPE will be around to cover any problems that might develop to brand new technology and mfg.

[MrRchitty]

PrivatePilot wrote:
Guys, little be it for me to suggest how things work here, but I'd sure like to see this thread get back on the topic of the Champion 2000 inverter. It seems it's drifted off on several tangents (Converters, and competing models, amongst other things) and I keep coming back to read the responses after getting the email alert...only to find out that the content has little to nothing to do with the Champ.

I agree and disagree.

Converters and their affects on the little Champ inverter as well as how it stands up to competing models amongst other things. Many times, Honeywell and Kipor are mentioned. Issues with pull cords, covers, etc. It brings on a well rounded wealth of information. I started reading back a few years ago in the 3000 watt chinese gensets. That forum was all over the place. But it helped me make an educated decision when purchasing my current open synchronous Champion 46515 4000/3500. It has served me well.

I stumbled upon this forum after purchasing an off brand 3000 watt inverter (it failed) and I continuing my quest for something reliable and cost effective.

This forum has helped me in making my decision to purchase the Champion 2000i.

I agree, it needs to be pulled back once in a while. But, not at the cost of comparing models or its abilities in comparison.

Professor is right, it's not a Honda. But, it is also not a Honeywell, a Kipor, a Subaru, a Yamaha, a generac, etc... But, more importantly, it is not an off brand Chinese generator.

Great customer service, parts availability, and a cost effective competitor to the Red and Blue.

Thank you.

[Old___Slow]

johnjces wrote:

Old & Slow wrote:
Jay, I notice, with interest, from profiles both you and John have only posted to this thread. Have you used other brand gens with the catering truck? How does the Champion do with the mircowave? You have had some pretty cold weather up that way this winter, did this effect catering?

@ Old & Slow.

You are correct as this is the only thread that I have had any interest in. My very first post to this RV forum and to this thread was back about page 55 where I discuss having had and returned a Honeywell unit and have a friend with one Honda 2000i and my next door neighbor has a Honda 3000i. Both are nice... and expensive. One is very heavy. Other than a noisy 6500 watt emergency generator for the house, a Briggs and Stratton brand, that pretty much sums up my experience with generators.

The biggest thing is... I am cheap! That is why I am ecstatic over the Champion generators and as I said in my orginal post, (I think), I hope I am not penny wise and pound foolish.

You have questioned quite a few newbies and thier posts feeling that we might be infiltrators or "plants". I assure you I am not. Just like good stuff, reasonably priced and that which works and works well!

If you are interested you can read more about me at:

My BIO

http://www.jcitssystems.com/BIO.htm

I don't have much to hide.

John

John,

First, you are a gentleman and a scholar. I think you understand on this thread there have been, in the past, several posters that were questionable at best. If you look back, they were here today and gone tomorrow, promo type, and some have dissapeared into the night. So sorry for the questions. But, John my question in the post was directed to Jay and was only asking for more info' concerning the use of the Champion 2000i and his carting business. Please stay on the thread with future updates. The Champion 2000i operation at high altitudes has great interest for those RV folks who travel far and wide. Thanks so much for your interest to let us know your experience with the Champion 2000i. Looking forward to more of the same perhaps from Jay.

[johnjces]

Old & Slow wrote:
Jay, I notice, with interest, from profiles both you and John have only posted to this thread. Have you used other brand gens with the catering truck? How does the Champion do with the mircowave? You have had some pretty cold weather up that way this winter, did this effect catering?

@ Old & Slow.

You are correct as this is the only thread that I have had any interest in. My very first post to this RV forum and to this thread was back about page 55 where I discuss having had and returned a Honeywell unit and have a friend with one Honda 2000i and my next door neighbor has a Honda 3000i. Both are nice... and expensive. One is very heavy. Other than a noisy 6500 watt emergency generator for the house, a Briggs and Stratton brand, that pretty much sums up my experience with generators.

The biggest thing is... I am cheap! That is why I am ecstatic over the Champion generators and as I said in my orginal post, (I think), I hope I am not penny wise and pound foolish.

You have questioned quite a few newbies and thier posts feeling that we might be infiltrators or "plants". I assure you I am not. Just like good stuff, reasonably priced and that which works and works well!

If you are interested you can read more about me at:

My BIO

http://www.jcitssystems.com/BIO.htm

I don't have much to hide.

John

[Old___Slow]

professor95 wrote:
Good advice about keeping to the topic.

That is exactly why I keep stressing that the CPE2000i is what it is and not a Honda.

The Champion 20001 is exactly why most of us are following this thread. Looking and waiting reports from real owners like our Prof'. Will you please show us the wave form of the Champion 2000i, with and without a load like your converter/charger and microwave.

We also see from a previous post from Randle, he is prepareing various test results, for review, of his Champion 2000i, perhaps other owners will do the same. We won't know good from bad, without comparison. True?