GUILTY verdict in Murder of couple in their RV

[ALBQ]

I'm not normally in favor of the death penalty but in this case::::::
Here's the story from the Albuquerque Journal.

http://www.abqjournal.com/277452/news/mccluskey-guilty-of-2-murders.html

[Bobbo]

Who would otherwise sit in prison for the rest of their lives for being innocent.

The discussion of innocents being convicted is a totally separate subject.

[pappcam]

rseymour21 wrote:
The death penalty works cause they can NEVER repeat any crime again. Zero! 100%

Even for those wrongly convicted!

[rseymour21]

The death penalty works cause they can NEVER repeat any crime again. Zero! 100%

[wa8yxm]

For various reasons I do not favor the death penalty. For one thing the rational is "If they have death to fear the criminal will think twice" is false. If the criminal was thinking of anything other than how smart he is and how he'll never get caught. He's not pull the crime, Since he'll never get caught (in his mind) there is no penalty at all.

However I DO favor an arc welder.

Put him in a cell
Arc weld the door shut.

[retired4fun2002]

This is one person who fully supports the death penalty - no matter what method is used, forget this human rights garbage. Someone mentioned it would be fitting to put them in general population of the prison - let's not waste the taxpayers money!! It is truly disgusting to see where some of these clowns have been on death row for 20+ years....save money and space - get rid of them. Safe travels.

[Vapor_Trails]

I think Sheriff Joe Arpaio's way is about as good a system as we can expect. The fringes don't like it, the majority of us regular folks are pretty good with it.

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herbhofmann wrote:
People have forgotten that the purpose of the death penalty is to uphold the sanctity of life. The idea is, "You take a life, you forfeit your life." Sadly, the "game" of trial by a jury of your peers has become one of winning at all costs, not finding the truth. I think in the long run, everyone loses-even the person who commits the crime.

The idea of the Penitentiary was to make the convicted felon sit and ponder his crime and come to the point of penance. It was a nice sentiment but it never worked. Now they are just warehouses where criminals can hone their craft.

I will agree very well said herb!

[mockturtle]

herbhofmann wrote:
People have forgotten that the purpose of the death penalty is to uphold the sanctity of life. The idea is, "You take a life, you forfeit your life." Sadly, the "game" of trial by a jury of your peers has become one of winning at all costs, not finding the truth. I think in the long run, everyone loses-even the person who commits the crime.

The idea of the Penitentiary was to make the convicted felon sit and ponder his crime and come to the point of penance. It was a nice sentiment but it never worked. Now they are just warehouses where criminals can hone their craft.

Well said, Herb.

[herbhofmann]

People have forgotten that the purpose of the death penalty is to uphold the sanctity of life. The idea is, "You take a life, you forfeit your life." Sadly, the "game" of trial by a jury of your peers has become one of winning at all costs, not finding the truth. I think in the long run, everyone loses-even the person who commits the crime.

The idea of the Penitentiary was to make the convicted felon sit and ponder his crime and come to the point of penance. It was a nice sentiment but it never worked. Now they are just warehouses where criminals can hone their craft.

[Old-Biscuit]

I don't agree with majority of ideas, way of life etc. in Middle Eastern Countries but the one concept I do like is there prison system.

When convicted the gov. is responsible for confinement........the family of criminal is responsible for their food, clothing, medical etc.
Tough luck if your family doesn't provide

[Merrykalia]

As an LEO, I have had the opportunity to visit a "super max" prison where the worst of the worst are sent that DON'T get a death sentence. It definitely doesn't have a gym, it has a "yard" that inmates can get outside. It's about 100' X 100' and surrounded by 15' high razor-wire fence or other buildings, as well as fencing across the top. There are several guard towers with snipers and they don't utilize rubber bullets. This is for the regular inmates.

The ones that are in solitary confinement have an 8 X 8 cell with a window that is 4" across by about 4' tall, a concrete bed and a 2" piece of mattress, a toilet and a small sink (8"). They are out of their cell for 30 minutes each day and can go into a yard, which is a 10' X 20' room with 15' block walls and the top is open to the sky, but does have razor-wire fencing across the top. They get to shower twice a week.

It's not really a nice place to be, it is NEVER quiet, it is never dark and someone is watching you most all the time. There is always a way to GET to someone, so you never feel secure.

I was never a proponent of the death penalty, but I do feel that if it is a crime where torture is used or a child is involved, then the death penalty is called for.

[larry_barnhart]

Just pull out your gun and start the bullet flying near them if you feel that threaten of course you will be arrested. The crooks always win.
chevman

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ReneeG wrote:
Such a sad, but just, ending for all. I remember this story and that the Haas's had a little dog that ran off. They never found it if I remember correctly.

I was wondering about the dog also Renee.
Makes this whole thing even more despicable 😞

[ReneeG]

Thats_Ok wrote:
Hard for me to fathom something like this.

Reading about this whole thing is terrifying to me.
I can visualize starting out happy and excited about traveling then crossing paths with a monster like this.

The DW and I would probably have little chance against an evil horribly violent sociopath.

How many super violent killers are wandering the country as we speak?

I agree. In all of our travels we have always been blessed with meeting wonderful RV'ers and all it would take is one creep like this. No wonder we can be leery of new people and untrusting.

[ReneeG]

Such a sad, but just, ending for all. I remember this story and that the Haas's had a little dog that ran off. They never found it if I remember correctly.