โMar-09-2014 04:00 PM
โMar-12-2014 09:13 AM
bigred1cav wrote:brooks379 wrote:
There are a lot of car accidents where people die...should we not drive anymore and ban cars ? There are a lot of over weight people in America ....should we ban forks ? I carry concealed and travel with my family and hope I never have to use my weapon but should I ever need to defend my wife and kids I will have the means to do it.
If you proudly carry a firearm why do you conceal it as though you are ashamed?
Where do you travel you need a handgun hidden on your body to protect you from what? You do know an armed assailant will make you dead before you can uncover your hidden gun?
Cars when operated as designed are not designed to kill. Guns are. Overweight people do not enter schools and murder children with the fat on their belly or legs. Cite how many people have been murdered by a fork in past 300 years? It won't reach the number murdered by guns in 2013.
BTW I own and use and am very proficient with firearms. I am just not coward enough to carry one. I have that right as a retired Police Officer.
โMar-12-2014 08:42 AM
wny_pat wrote:all federal laws supercedes state lawmusicman54 wrote:Which constitution are you talking about??? Each state has their own constitution, and they are not all firearm friendly. And as citizens of a particular state, that state constitution applies to us when in our own state. Outside of that state, we have no rights except those confided on us by the federal constitution, and the laws of the state we happen to be in as it applies to us. The second amendment really doesn't give us many right concerning firearms because the states reserve the right to grant those rights as they see fit. And the US Constitution allows the states to do that. Its called States Rights.
so no one here but a few belives in the laws of the land the constution and does anyone know what infringed upion mean or are they just words
โMar-12-2014 08:41 AM
brooks379 wrote:
There are a lot of car accidents where people die...should we not drive anymore and ban cars ? There are a lot of over weight people in America ....should we ban forks ? I carry concealed and travel with my family and hope I never have to use my weapon but should I ever need to defend my wife and kids I will have the means to do it.
โMar-12-2014 08:37 AM
pnichols wrote:yes i saw that movie also no they never checked them into the sheriff my great grandfather was a sheriff in lincolin neb
Boy, are these camping firearms discussions depressing.
Even in the Wild West gun carrying cowboys carried them out in the open in hip holsters. Even then, in many towns they had to check them in at the sheriff's office so they wouldn't get into trouble while in town.
It's really scary to have private citizens carrying concealed weapons - considering all the folks walking around out there with undiagnosed mental illness, road rage, excessive drinking, recreational drug use, poor anger management skills, general depression issues, posttraumatic stress disorder, and various other types of psychosis. Many of these type disorders are just below the surface in seemingly "normal/nice/trustworhy" people who as of yet may have no history of behavioral issues. Concealed weapon permits do not vet-out or screen-out these type of hidden or latent tendencies. People with CC permits also can change later after getting a permit in the past - but if they already have a CC permit when they begin to go south emotionally - then they're legally able to keep right on carrying a deadly weapon that is not visable to others. Scary stuff.
Concealed weapons have no business in the general population - including being carried by retired folks who once had permits to carry them in their professional careers. When they retire, the CC permit should get revoked.
If you think you gotta have a weapon in an RV for "protection" - make it a long gun - such as a 20 guage shotgun.
โMar-12-2014 07:47 AM
โMar-12-2014 07:39 AM
facory wrote:
(Unless I'm mistaken, a loaded handgun in a car without a CC will get you a trip to jail.)
I believe you are mistaken. Check the law. The disqualifier is that if you have a felony record.
code3run wrote:
Also I know a group that was camping and a drunk idiot from another rv got angry over something and came out shooting at them with an ak47. Nobody was hit but really you never know when you may need to protect yourself.
โMar-12-2014 07:36 AM
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โMar-11-2014 10:56 PM
โMar-11-2014 10:45 PM
musicman54 wrote:Which constitution are you talking about??? Each state has their own constitution, and they are not all firearm friendly. And as citizens of a particular state, that state constitution applies to us when in our own state. Outside of that state, we have no rights except those confided on us by the federal constitution, and the laws of the state we happen to be in as it applies to us. The second amendment really doesn't give us many right concerning firearms because the states reserve the right to grant those rights as they see fit. And the US Constitution allows the states to do that. Its called States Rights.
so no one here but a few belives in the laws of the land the constution and does anyone know what infringed upion mean or are they just words
โMar-11-2014 10:38 PM
Tom/Barb wrote:bigdogger wrote:
Like I have said before, if you are so afraid or RVing and so incapable of making good campground choices that you need a deadly weapon at the ready 24/7/365 maybe you should consider another hobby.
We camp remote a lot, LEOs are hours away, If you can contact one, There are many Illegal Immigrants poaching game in the state forests and tree farms. They do not value your life very much.
I like the camping and do not believe I'll stop because of them.
โMar-11-2014 10:03 PM
musicman54 wrote:
so no one here but a few belives in the laws of the land the constution and does anyone know what infringed upion mean or are they just words
โMar-11-2014 09:46 PM
โMar-11-2014 09:41 PM
bigdogger wrote:
Like I have said before, if you are so afraid or RVing and so incapable of making good campground choices that you need a deadly weapon at the ready 24/7/365 maybe you should consider another hobby.